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indiamike Male The Big Paneer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Arambol Posts: 1,430 Anjuna is worth skipping now and it's appeal seems more to the weekender from Mumbai or hyderabad. Think 'future ibiza' jyotirmoy Male Maha Guru Member I had posted earlier in some thread that I have stopped going to Goa. The last time I was in Goa was atleast 5 or 6 years back. Goa has changed. No comments on whether it has changed for good or bad. The last time I was there I noted changes that were taking place. The smiling cool guys maning the shops & the shacks had been replaced by arrogant business men whose manners reflected the business you were bringin in. I failed to understand the language spoken at the Tito's. While walking back from Calangute at night to Bagha I was robbed at knife point. I felt that I just couldnt handle it any more so good bye Goa, let the memories of early seventies remain as fairy tales which I had told to my children & if lucky would like to tell these tales to my grand children, this is my tribute to Goa of yesterdays. Amen. goamit Member goamit's Avatar Living in Hope ________________________________________________________________________ They are trying to kill the scene, firstly your article is much appreciated the research u have done is meticulous and covered all the points. It feels so good to read your article that some one is speaking about the thoughts of thousands of Ravers. Also Anjuna - Vagator is still a heaven for day Rave scenes its just that in Christmas and Newyears a lot of unwanted people come here Un wanted as they just block space even if they have no interest in Raves. Lets hope the scene come alive As of now Gokarana and Hamping must having wild psy partys who knows Boom passingby as I am in Arambol now.... here is the situation: in Anjuna there have been a few parties going on at Curlie's bar. Xmas was just bad luck since there were suppose to be parties in 3 locations: Hill Top, Monkey Valley and Disco Valley, but police shut them down. since we arrived here in Arambol, there had been 3 parties here. there is a party going on as I write now, at Hill Top in Vagator and supposely one in Curlie's bar. there are supposely two parties starting late here in Arambol tonight. so, as you can see there are still parties going, but it is not what it used to be when I was here in Anjuna 2 years ago. Anjuna changed a lot since last time I was here. it is definetly future Ibitza. as for the raves... it is such a pity that the government is shuting them down. this is what brings backpackers to Goa. as for the other travelers, Goa offers everybody whatever they are looking for. there are quiet beaches for people who are looking for that, there are tourist oriented beaches for whomever is looking for package, good service and expensive hotels and it is a pity that they no longer want the backpackers who represent a great percentage of the travelers here in India. the backpackers bring a lot of money into the tourism in India and it is a pity that they want to estrange them away from Goa. what I don't understand is this: why is Paradiso and Tito ok, but yet open raves by the beach are not ok? Paradiso and Tito are just as loud as every other rave. and please, there are still drugs going on in Paradiso and in Tito or in any big techo club in the west for that matter. if you are telling me that the location is what bothers the Goans, well, the party locations are all set up far away from villages, by the beach, where the sound goes into the sea or open air. so it is far away from Goan houses. so I don't understand why they want to shut down the parties in Goa where all over the world people are setting up open air raves for the people who like them? anyhow, I hope the parties come back to Goa, even though I am getting out of the rave scene, but if not for my benefit, at least for the benefit of all those travellers who want to experience something different and a lot more original than a night club. lotus blossom my religion is love lotus blossom's Avatar Location: oregon usa well, this is dissapointing news. i never got to experience goa yet. maybe we could take it elsewhere? __________________ you are god hiding from yourself - hafiz GoanCanuck Maha Guru Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Vancouver Posts: 1,370 Quote: Originally Posted by passingby the backpackers bring a lot of money into the tourism in India and it is a pity that they want to estrange them away from Goa. That is not quite correct. The average backpacker spends approx. $10-$15/day as compared to the package tourist coming into Goa on a chartered flight who spends about $50/day Quote: Originally Posted by passingby what I don't understand is this: why is Paradiso and Tito ok, but yet open raves by the beach are not ok? Paradiso and Tito are just as loud as every other rave. and please, there are still drugs going on in Paradiso and in Tito or in any big techo club in the west for that matter. Paradiso is located on property that belongs to the Goa government. It is leased by the operator. The present operator owes a huge sum of money which has not been paid so far to the administration and this may very well lead to a shutting down of this place. As far as Tito's is concerned, the events held at this venue can not be classified as raves. It is just like any other nightclub anywhere else in India. Quote: Originally Posted by passingby so I don't understand why they want to shut down the parties in Goa where all over the world people are setting up open air raves for the people who like them? anyhow, I hope the parties come back to Goa, even though I am getting out of the rave scene, but if not for my benefit, at least for the benefit of all those travellers who want to experience something different and a lot more original than a night club. What about the negative effects these raves have had on the local populace? Is the pleasure of western backpackers so paramount that local villagers have to suffer in silence? If you go and talk to the social workers in Vagator/Chapora you will find that young school kids in Grade 10 have been dropping out of school to become drug pushers and in many cases drug addicts. These kids tell their parents that there is no point in going to school because they can make far more money by selling this stuff. Invariably many of these kids grow up to end up dead in a drug deal gone bad or they spend most of their adulthood rotting in jail. The backpackers may come and stay for a while and move on but it is the local population which has to bear the scars into the future. If you go and talk to a Goan family who has lost a loved one to this nasty subculture you will rapidly change your views on the so called "benefits" of these open air parties. lotus blossom my religion is love lotus blossom's Avatar Location: oregon usa well, goanchuck, once you put it like that it sounds like a positive step. it's too bad that one cannot get high on dance without the drugs. Luckywoman Female Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Holland Hippy at heart ________________________________________________________________________ I dont know a thing about rave parties and about drugs going on in Goa, but it seems to me that all this has little to do with India. Let India please stay India and let the western travellers who come to India just to enjoy drugs-and raveparties search their luck somewhere else. __________________ Good nature is worth more than knowledge, more than money, more than honor My (travel) photo's goamit Member goamit's Avatar Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Santacruz,Mumbai,India Posts: 65 Passing By you get my 100 % ________________________________________________________________________ Hey Passing by you get my 100 % marks for what you have mentioned its so true and Trust Goa is big to entertain interest of each tourist and give a shy eye to raves.Its my life -------------------------------------------------------------------------- | Goa - 2005 Santosh Trophy Champions | | | | Support Soccer Activities at the grassroots in our villages | | Vacationing in Goa this year-end - Carry and distribute Soccer Balls | --------------------------------------------------------------------------
