-------------------------------------------------------------------------- | Wishing all Goanetters | | a Prosperous | | and | | Happy New Year - 2006 | | Goanet - http://www.goanet.org | -------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- Bosco D'Mello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Mario, > > Your thoughts are like a runaway train - the energy > therein will only lead to disastrous results! > Mario replies: > Bosco, The energy in my runaway train of thought is aimed at disastrous results for only those who oppress innocent people and oppose freedom and democracy around the world. > > Mario wrote: > > > > So, I guess you are saying that the elimination of > > Israel that is still contained in the PLO Charter > - even though Arafat is supposed to have publicly > > repudiated that goal after realizing it's futility > - Bosco's RESPONSE: > > Your guess is YOUR guess......that is not what ANYBODY has > said on this forum. You continue to put words in other > people's mouths. > Mario replies: > Bosco, I don't have to put words in anyone's mouth. You do that by what you write. When you dismiss the Israeli description of their plight of being in a survival mode as "propaganda", and I prove you are wrong by citing the PLO Charter and recent graphic re-iterations of the goal of eliminating Israel by the leaders of Al Qaeda and Iran, you clearly demonstrate your disregard for the survival of the Israeli nation, while pretending not to have said so. > Bosco writes: > > "Allegation" - that's how YOU view HonestReporting.com ?? I > said Honestreporting.com is distributing propaganda. It > does not have to be true or false to be classified as > PROPAGANDA. > Mario replies: > It seems you are making a moral equivalency between the truth and falsehoods. > I asked you to point out falsehoods by HonestReporting.com, which you have failed to do. They have clearly pointed out falsehoods by the major news media. You call this propaganda. > There would be no need for HonestReporting.com if the major news sources reported the Palestinian-Israeli conflict honestly. What they do is point out the falsehoods and truth twisting by the major news media. > Propaganda, my friend, is defined as "the spreading of ideas, information, or rumor for the purpose of helping or injuring an institution, a cause, or a person," OR "ideas, facts, or allegations spread deliberately to further one's cause or to damage an opposing cause." > I see you have a problem with HonestReporting.com disemminating "ideas, information, facts and allegations" in order to injure or damage those major media institutions that are deliberately twisting the truth about the Palestinian-Israeli conflict, like Reuters, The Guardian, CNN and the BBC. > Bosco writes: > > Humbug !! I don't believe there are any news organizations > that have ever provided TOTALLY unbiased viewpoints. Whatever > is put out will always appear biased to some point of view in > the spectrum of human thinking. And examples are not necessary. > Mario replies: > Bosco, you need to familiarize yourself with the difference between "viewpoints" and "news reporting". In countries that have freedom of speech, the news media can express any "viewpoint" they choose to on their editorial pages. Readers can counter these by writing letters to the editor. The news media cannot express their "viewpoint" in their news reporting pages, where they are supposed to, by definition, report what has actually happened. Reuters, The Guardian, CNN and BBC have been found to have deliberately and repeatedly misrepresented in their NEWS REPORTING what has actually happened in the Palestinian-Israeli conflict, and HonestReporting.com documents these falsehoods. > Bosco writes: > > Time for some education! Medicine is not free in Canada unless > you are over 65 and live in Ontario. You don't pay to be > examined by doctors or for all medical tests. And you profess > to knowing everything about Canada and Canadians........tch- > tch-tch !!! > Mario replies: > I see you still suffer from that nasal drip. Everything I know about Canada I learn from you Canadians. Your good friend, Mervyn, has repeatedly alleged that he gets certain medications which shall remain nameless in this forum to protect his medical condition, FREE. Perhaps he is over 65. Anyway, thanks for correcting me on this little detail of Canadian minutiae. After all, this is the least you can do in return for all the other education and facts that I provide on this forum.. > Bosco writes: > > In closing I'd like to say, Mario, over the past year your > commentary here on Goanet has had only one focus - Iraq. Many > times you've acted as a publicist/lobbyist. > Mario replies: > Bosco, I think the archives will show that you are wrong about me having only ONE focus. However, perhaps because Canada sat on the sidelines and tried to obstruct the freedom and democracy that the US-led coalition is achieving in Iraq, it irritates you when I defend what is going on in Iraq against verbal attacks by those who live in freedom and democracy, yet oppose freedom and democracy for the Iraqis. > Bosco writes: > > You could not help but drag even this exchange about the > BBC and the Israel-Palestinian conflict to Iraq. Your > constant perceptions of every political and social issue from > a left-wing/right-wing viewpoint is out of step with
> mainstream thinking the world over. > Mario replies: > Bosco, I hate to break this to you, but everything that is going on in the middle-east is intimately connected with the Palestinian-Israeli conflict. You Canadians better get your heads out of the sand and catch up with what is going on in the rest of the world. > Bosco writes: > > Some of your commentary has been outright embarrasing to > conservative-minded people here. You are welcome to maintain > your entrenched, self-righteous viewpoints. I just wish > we - Goans here on Goanet, could use your fantastic > vocabulary and writing skills to further the lot of our > people - Goans, rather than waste our time in endless self- > righteous debate on issues and events we have absolutely no > control over. > Mario replies: > Bosco, you are obviously suffering from a New Year hang-over. Nothing I have ever said could embarrass anyone who is a modern political conservative. My comments can only bother those who have entrenched left-wing viewpoints, and those with such left-wing viewpoints have been trying to fool everyone by calling themselves "progressive humanitarians", while actually acting as "regressive totalitarians" when it comes to helping the poor and oppressed around the world. > Besides, I'm not sure the term "self-righteous" is the correct term to use, though the term "right-eous" is obviously what I strive for, which seems to bother those who are "left-eous". > Bosco writes: > > If you interested and willing to assist fellow Goans > in anyway.......I'll be waiting to hear from you. > > In the meantime, I'll tip my glass of Australian Shiraz - > Happy New Year - 2006! > Mario replies: > Bosco, go easy on the Shiraz. You seem to be pretty wasted already. > BTW, you obviously have no idea what I do to assist Goa and Goans. If you have a specific Goan problem in mind, please let me know. > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- | Goa - 2005 Santosh Trophy Champions | | | | Support Soccer Activities at the grassroots in our villages | | Vacationing in Goa this year-end - Carry and distribute Soccer Balls | --------------------------------------------------------------------------