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http://bmxgoa.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ --- velho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Addressed to Dr. Helekar: > but you have to stop denigrating organised religion > and its followers (whatever way you look at it word > like mob/herd mentality even if true are hurtful). > For the record I am an atheist myself. > Mario responds: > For the record, Dr. Helekar now says he is not an atheist and never has been. Apparently, he is able to think and write like one. > Velho, just FYI, several people on this forum may not be what they appear to be or even who they say they are. Nom de plumes are frequently used to hide identities. Some are posting under more than one identity. 'Nuff said. > It is about time that an atheist with at least some sense joined Vivek in speaking up against Dr. Helekar's gratuitous and unprovoked attacks on religion and religious people, which have apparently gone on for several years now. > None of the Hindus on Goanet were motivated enough to challenge him. > Among all the accolades to Dr. Helekar's contributions to science and mankind, not one atheist noticed his statistically absurd use of exceptions and claims of wrongdoing by fringe religious members in order to suggest that ALL religious moral codes are "fake". Then he ducks behind his boiler-plate cover that he is tolerant of everyone. Now, he is suddenly not an atheist and never has been. We shall see. Stay tuned. > Then Cornel, whom we can always count on to be illogical, classifies Hitler and Stalin and Castro as Christians because he says their birth-religion identifies their religious beliefs. Never mind what they actually practiced, says Cornel. Well, duh! > Wouldn't that make Cornel and Kevin "Christians" and Santosh and Vivek "Hindus" and Velho whatever his parents were? I wonder what religion Cornel would say the murderous atheist despots like Mao, Ho Chi Minh and Pol Pot belonged to? > Velho writes: > > My views on the above topics I believe represent the > young educated goan who is a successful member of > the second fastest growing economy in the > world (thanks to Shri Singh, Sinha and > Chidambaram). I would love to give my views on the > land, labour and capital issue but they are very > similar to Mr. Krishnayya, so I will allow him to > take the personal abuse all contributors are > subject to. > Mario responds: > Velho, notwithstanding your youth, education and success you seem to have missed the fact that rebuttals to Mr Krishnayya's views have been based on facts and logic, and not on any "personal abuse". > In a public forum specious claims of "abuse" and "insult" later raised to a higher level with threats of lawsuits against political and social adversaries in a public forum is simply a ploy to chill free speech and robust, free-flowing debate and intimidate many to remain "silent". > I am personally acquainted with only TWO Goanetters, and have nothing personal against people I don't know and can only respond to how and what they write in this forum. > Velho writes: > > I just have one question for Mr. Mario Goveia (in > particular) and other netters too. As the Indian > economy progresses at this overheated pace, what > should we do to ensure that the rural-urban divide > does not cause this country to erupt in chaos. > Mario responds: > Velho, Interesting question, but, if you are serious about working philosophies and ideas, you have come to the right place for this seminar:-)) Just kidding. > However, I will outline my thoughts in a separate post. Thanks for asking. > > _______________________________________________ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org