--- cornel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> I think it is now absolutely clear that Mario needs
> to win every argument on Goanet and address every 
> issue under the sun. If need be he will readily 
> distort what someone else has said and then attack
> the distortion. I think, apart from you two, 
> Aristo, myself and Elizabeth, and indeed others 
> have come to this same point of view. He also always
> wants the last word (remember Eddie and others 
> saying this?) and cannot graciously end a 
> discussion like most others will.
> 
> When challenged to quote me about his distortion
> that I wanted to see Israel eliminated, suddenly 
> there was silence for once.  Perhaps even the great 
> distortionist can be stopped in his tracks if we
> remind him often that we do not buy distortion and 
> intentional misreading.
> 
Mario responds:
>
If the last word establishes a recognizable fact then
is that a bad thing?  Apparently you would like
falsehoods to stand as the last word.
>
BTW, I believe I have already exposed your sophistry
about Israel's elimination, while supporting those
that want to eliminate it.
>
As I explained to Elisabeth, civil and honest comments
are always treated civilly, but blatant dishonesty and
distortions as you often engage in on Iraq, Israel and
religion will be treated with all the respect they
righfully deserve.  
>
You can have any opinion you please, however
misguided, but why should I let a blatant falsehood
stand un-rebutted in a public forum?
>
Instead of the generalities you typically engage in,
let's see if we can pin you down on some specifics.
>
I say that 5 Arab armies attacked Israel in 1948 with
the goal of "pushing the Jews into the sea" and Hamas,
Hezbollah, Syria and Iran still openly advocate it's
elimination?  What do you think?
>
How specifically is Israel supposed to "negotiate"
with an opposition that has sworn to "wipe them off
the map"?
>
I say there can be NO rational expectation of
"proportionality" when one KNOWS from their public
statements and 58 years of attacks that the adversary
is planning one's physical destruction.  What is your
response?
>
Santosh has painted all religions as having "fake
morality" and all religious people as being members of
"mobs" and herds".  What is your response?
>
Santosh says that all atheists have engaged in
diligent independent study, research and deep
introspection in arriving at their godless beliefs. 
How does he know what any unorganized, individual
atheist, other than himself, has done?
>
Santosh now claims that he is not an atheist and has
never been one, thereby cutting the legs of those
atheists who exposed themselves to support him.  Are
we supposed to believe this late claim, or everything
that he has actually said to denigrate religion?
>
Santosh says he has always spoken out against the
"elimination of religion" from our society.  Did
religion need him to speak out against it's
elimination in order to survive?  Isn't this a little
like speaking out against the elimination of free
speech in America?  
>
Let the squirming and obfuscation begin.
>



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