--- cornel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I think it is now absolutely clear that Mario needs > to win every argument on Goanet and address every > issue under the sun. If need be he will readily > distort what someone else has said and then attack > the distortion. I think, apart from you two, > Aristo, myself and Elizabeth, and indeed others > have come to this same point of view. He also always > wants the last word (remember Eddie and others > saying this?) and cannot graciously end a > discussion like most others will. > > When challenged to quote me about his distortion > that I wanted to see Israel eliminated, suddenly > there was silence for once. Perhaps even the great > distortionist can be stopped in his tracks if we > remind him often that we do not buy distortion and > intentional misreading. > Mario responds: > If the last word establishes a recognizable fact then is that a bad thing? Apparently you would like falsehoods to stand as the last word. > BTW, I believe I have already exposed your sophistry about Israel's elimination, while supporting those that want to eliminate it. > As I explained to Elisabeth, civil and honest comments are always treated civilly, but blatant dishonesty and distortions as you often engage in on Iraq, Israel and religion will be treated with all the respect they righfully deserve. > You can have any opinion you please, however misguided, but why should I let a blatant falsehood stand un-rebutted in a public forum? > Instead of the generalities you typically engage in, let's see if we can pin you down on some specifics. > I say that 5 Arab armies attacked Israel in 1948 with the goal of "pushing the Jews into the sea" and Hamas, Hezbollah, Syria and Iran still openly advocate it's elimination? What do you think? > How specifically is Israel supposed to "negotiate" with an opposition that has sworn to "wipe them off the map"? > I say there can be NO rational expectation of "proportionality" when one KNOWS from their public statements and 58 years of attacks that the adversary is planning one's physical destruction. What is your response? > Santosh has painted all religions as having "fake morality" and all religious people as being members of "mobs" and herds". What is your response? > Santosh says that all atheists have engaged in diligent independent study, research and deep introspection in arriving at their godless beliefs. How does he know what any unorganized, individual atheist, other than himself, has done? > Santosh now claims that he is not an atheist and has never been one, thereby cutting the legs of those atheists who exposed themselves to support him. Are we supposed to believe this late claim, or everything that he has actually said to denigrate religion? > Santosh says he has always spoken out against the "elimination of religion" from our society. Did religion need him to speak out against it's elimination in order to survive? Isn't this a little like speaking out against the elimination of free speech in America? > Let the squirming and obfuscation begin. >
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