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Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > --- "Frederick \"FN\" Noronha" > > > Now, how about giving up on flogging this dead > > horse, since were're actually getting no-where on > > it? > > --- Santosh Helekar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Frederick, > > Forgive me for being direct with you. Instead of > dispensing stale advice and cliches, how about > enforcing the existing Goanet rules? > > When is the last time you have suspended or expelled > anybody for repeatedly violating them? > > If my views and posts violate the rules, please kick > me out? I for one will not complain. This is a > moderated forum where the moderators are supposed to > be in charge. Don't worry about being accused of > censorship. Please have some courage for a change. > Why are you wasting time trying to be fair to > everybody? You may think you are fair, but in a > lop-sided world there is no fairness. Habitual > violators of the rules will always get away if the > moderators are weak. So please have the courage to > kick me out. > Mario observes: > Fred, Actually flogging this dead horse is resulting in the much needed exposure of some tendencies that many Goanet members of the "silent majority" variety have apparently been chafing under for quite sometime now. To wit, the unprovoked attacks on Christian and other religious beliefs of many Goanet members by a small coterie of aggressive atheists and agnostics and moral relativists determined to ridicule and denigrate organized religion sometimes using scurrilous methods in order to do so. > We have seen this in the recent attempt to show that the moral codes of organized morally based groups are "fake", the shrill attempts to "prove" that Hitler was a staunch Catholic in good standing by a member who claims to be a Catholic but is on record as being unable to even recognize the attacks on religion or the rock solid Catholic moral codes, the attempts to prove that the Vatican was complicit in Nazi atrocities, and the slyly worded flame baits using alleged "provocations" that had nothing to do with what anyone on Goanet had opined or any discussion that was taking place on Goanet. > Then we see curious and comical attempts to deflect attention towards alleged rule violations by other members and objections to the moderators "...trying to be fair to everybody". > We all know that Santosh is being disingenious when he says without qualification, "If my views and posts violate the rules, please kick me out" We all know that he does not "habitually" violate the rules. Neither do other members "habitually" violate the rules. However, my impression is that the moderators have been more than generous in interpreting Santosh's posts to the chagrin of other members. > Therefore, Santosh is correct that the moderators need to be more consistent and firm in applying the rules equally TO ALL MEMBERS. I also think they should explain a rejection in more detail which gives a member the opportunity to edit their post and re-submit it. > I don't think anyone seriously wants Santosh or anyone else "kicked off" an open public forum like Goanet. Even his leadership role in denigrating religion is part of free speech as far as I'm concerned, as long as others are allowed to respond. I think it would suffice if any open flame baits, no matter whom they come from, especially ones that are allegedly provoked by events outside the opinions and discussions on Goanet, are more closely scrutinized. > _______________________________________________ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org