--- Mario Goveia wrote: > > > Just to clarify the height of your "balderdash", > > what Cornel described as "codswallop" was my > > opinion that it is no one else's business what a > > worker who needs a job accepts from an employer > > in terms of wages and benefits. > > > > > Perhaps you, Cornel or Selma can explain your > > objections to this opinion in a more intelligent > > way than simply calling it nonsense? > --- Vidyadhar Gadgil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Of course it is the business of many other parties: > > 1. The state -- > > 2. Workers' representatives -- > > 3. International bodies -- > > I am sure that others can add to this, but I think > the point is made. It is sad that while you seem to > accept the right of employers to cartelise and > jointly fix wages, you do not give the same > right to workers and their representatives. > Mario responds: > Vidhyadhar, The point you have made is from a cynical and obsolete Marxist approach to labor relations which is causing such economic stagnation in most of Europe, relative to the dynamic US economy that is the envy of most of the industrialised world, now recently being emulated by some eastern European countries. > http://www.timbro.com/euvsusa/ > Besides, you are using premises I do not recognize. Such as "...while you seem to accept the right of employers to cartelise and jointly fix wages,..." > I have no idea where this is taking place. It would be illegal to do so in the US, which is my frame of reference. Wages in the US vary widely from skill to skill, from region to region and industry to industry, and with an unemployment rate of 4.4% companies are competing for qualified workers rather than colluding among themselves and exploiting their workers as you seem to insinuate. > I see nothing wrong with localized collective bargaining between an employer and their own work-force, but I see plenty wrong with the political behemoths that the major labor unions have become, with politically motivated CEO's whose salaries equal those of major corporate CEO's, disasscociated from the interests of most working people and with none of the achievements that corporate CEO's are expected to produce in return. Which is why the labor unions in the US have been losing members each and every year for over two decades from workers deciding to make their own decisions on whom to work for and for how much. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Goanet supports BMX, the alumni network of Britto's, St Mary's and Xavier's -- three prominent institutions in Mapusa, Goa. Events scheduled from Dec 16 to 21, 2006
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