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Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Bosco and Selma, I admit that my approach to this issue has been curt and migh have cause offence to some people. Santosh provided a much more balanced view. The point is essentially the same, social factors are affecting Goan education much more than the education system itself. Selma, your argument is purely emotional and unfortunately ignores what I initially highlighted in response to Albert and Gllenda, that children from the coastal Catholic belts are out performed at school by those from the hinterland despite the fact that they are economically better off and have acess to good schools. You do not provide an explanation for this nor have you provided a reason for my observation that people from other regions of Goa and India are making much more money from tourism in Goa than the locals from the coast. I would venture to say that this group of people is the most socially immobile(the way in which someone's adult outcomes are related to their circumstances as a child) or stagnant group currently resident in Goa. While Gllenda and Albert chose to blame church run schools for this, I blamed the parents and kids themselves. I did not mention the word Gulfie nor Shippie any where in my post. These were entirely fabricated from the huge chip Selma carries on her shoulder. I singled out youth who choose to do manual labour via those avenues instead of studying hard at school. There are many people who use these avenues as a genuine career paths like the Goan Chefs on Cruise Liners or Officers and Engineers on Merchant vessels. They definitely do not fall into the same category, just as Goan professionals in France cannot be grouped with the thousands of Goans there lifting crates. Regards Sunith >>Gilbert has provided an appropriate quote vis-a-vis >>inspiration/perspiration. Santosh has provided stats and explanations. >>Helga has provided some insights too. Sunith has been curt. And yes Selma, the underprivileged don't get an easy ride anywhere. And forever in human history there will always be an underpriviledged class - whether you live in Goa or Alabama.