Actually dear doctor your examples of criminal acts of inflated rice manifests are so sketchy that even I, once misty eyed holiday going Goan would hesitate to tell this to my own brother (if I had one).
What will be your next example if I push you for a worse case? Over- manifesting imported Japanese toys coming into Goa for Christmas, or perhaps busting the blockade by providing Indian customs officials State 555 cigarettes and Black Label scotch to look the other way while beef and vegetables came in from Belgaum and Karwar? Sad you have to scrape the bottom of the law-breaking barrel to show up the Portuguese in a poor light. Roland. Sent from Samsung Mobile -------- Original message -------- From: Santosh Helekar <chimbel...@yahoo.com> Date: 04-05-2014 5:12 PM (GMT-05:00) To: "roland.francis" <roland.fran...@ymail.com>,"Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!" <goanet@lists.goanet.org>,"jc>" <cola...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Goanet] Fwd: Re: Incubator For Political Crooks? I express incredulity based on actual reports that I have read in contemporaneous sources about corruption and crookedness in the Portuguese administration. It is not based on third person hearsay or from the misty nostalgic childhood memories of summer holidays in Goa. So as promised, I provide below examples of corruption and crookedness in the Portuguese "system" from published sources documented in real time as the events were unfolding. I will provide only two examples for now with names of three high ranking public officials. I will provide more examples later, if needed. Both examples I give below have to do with the purchase and sale of Goa's staple food - rice. Both were serious scandals by any standard. The first one was particularly massive, and took place in 1936. It involved hundreds of Goan landlords and public officials, including district officers who were retired Portuguese military men, as well as the members of the Rice Board appointed by the Governor-General. Two of the biggest land owners in Salcete were implicated and charged with criminal offenses. One report indicated that over 250 people were charged with fraud, and this was merely the beginning. These corrupt private businessmen and government servants had forged official documents (rice manifests) on a massive scale and violated the protectionist and price control laws enacted by the government. The contemporaneous news report said that this organized fraud network in Goa had created a new manufacturing industry overnight - the wholesale manufacturing of rice manifests with over-inflated figures. So what happened to these hundreds of crooked and corrupt Portuguese administrators and citizens of Portuguese Goa in the end? For the most part, nothing. Not even a slap on the wrist. Only the board was replaced by a new board, and some of the district officers went back to their retired military life. The Governor-General went back to Lisbon and another took his place. In fact, one Craveiro Lopes was replaced by another Craveiro Lopes. That is to say, Major Higino Craveiro Lopes took the musical chair of General Craveiro Lopes. The second corruption scandal was called the "Bogus Rice Deal". It took place in 1954-55. It cost the Goan exchequer Rs. 35 lakhs. The Lisbon government suspected three high ranking Portuguese officials in Goa to be the culprits behind it - the Chief of the Cabinet, Captain Carmo Ferreira, the Police Chief, Captain Romba and another official named Ismail Gracias. Again, nobody took any action against these individuals. Justice, Goan style as always. That was the Portuguese system in Goa. If you need more examples of crookedness and corruption from this system I would be happy to provide them. Cheers, Santosh > On Friday, April 4, 2014 12:31 PM, roland.francis <roland.fran...@ymail.com> > wrote: > > Jose and Santosh babs, > > JC's undermentioned post takes care of my reply in a better manner than I > could have done. > > WHAT SYSTEM Santosh? > A system where honesty, clean public administration, speedy justice, and the > economic good of the people within the means available, trumped personal, > illegal, pecuniary gain perpetrated in mega doses and without impunity. > > Santoshbab, there are many things that have to be visualized and experienced > like in your scientific world in order to be believed. Otherwise one > expresses > incredulity like you have done. > > You are pessimistic about Portuguese administration, not having seen it or > experienced it. To that extent I can excuse your disbelief. > > Roland. > > > Sent from Samsung Mobile > > -------- Original message -------- > From: Jose Colaco <cola...@gmail.com> > Date: 04-04-2014 8:09 AM (GMT-05:00) > To: Santosh Helekar <chimbel...@yahoo.com>,"Goa's premiere > mailing list, estb. 1994!" <goanet@lists.goanet.org> > Cc: "roland.francis" <roland.fran...@ymail.com> > Subject: Re: [Goanet] Incubator For Political Crooks? > > On Apr 4, 2014, at 1:12 AM, Santosh Helekar <chimbel...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > "How is Roland sure that there were no crooks in Portuguese administration, > and when? What system did not allow it?" > > > COMMENT: > > While Roland does the needful to answer Santoshbab's question, I believe it > would help IF Santoshbab identified at least a couple of the crooks from the > Portuguese administration that he knows of. > > Otherwise, at this moment, it appears as though Roland is being asked to > prove/disprove the negative. > > Such techniques are possibly brilliant in Debates, Political skirmishes and > perhaps in the Court of Public Opinion; NOT in any reasonable court. > > ps: it is my understanding that the Vast Majority of administrators and > policemen in Portuguese Goans were Goans. > > Is the suggestion being made here that A SYSTEM which enabled Goans to live > without locking their front doors, actually allowed Corruption in public > administration to flourish? > > Might be a good idea to prove it. > > jc >