On 26/03/07, Santosh Helekar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Frederick,
views. Actually, the way I see it I think I agree with
you on the issue of copyright. But I am not sure what
your view is on plagiarism because you have never
stated it clearly.

I wouldn't plagarise anyone, and always try my best to quote sources.
But I wouldn't make a big issue if someone chose to reproduce my
writing, with or without credit. At most, I would politely request
that credit be given.

At the same time, let us not pretend that our views are all original,
and not influenced by what we read and hear. My understanding of Goa
is shaped by the thoughts and words of the Robert Newmans, the Goa
Gazetteers, and so many of the other 2000+ books on Goa in my
collection. Let us be honest in acknowledging that "original" thoughts
and writing are often not so "original".

1. Should we tell our students that it is bad to copy
from others without giving them proper credit?

Yes. But please tell them that there are also other "licenses" such as
the Creative Commons Non-Attribution 2.5 license which allow you to do
precisely that. Provided the person who put it out has allowed you to
do that.

2. Should we be concerned that in this time of easy
access to the internet that people are lifting
material verbatim from all kinds of websites, both
authentic and bogus, and presenting it as their own in
forums such as this one?

Maybe. But hasn't this been the history of all knowledge? Dr Timothy
Walker has documented how the Portuguese were pilfering information
about medical plants in Asia in the 16th and 17th century... not
bothering to credit the unknown and unsung vaidyas who had the
knowledge then. We know how Western Europe claimed to have
"discovered" America, when people lived their millenia before,

These are just two examples. But there are many, many more. Take a
look at Claude Alvares' earlier contribution on the history of science
(a god which you workship as infallable, it seems to me) at
http://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=history+of+science+Claude+Alvares&hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:official&hs=AOt&um=1&oi=scholart

Pratik Chakrabarti's biography on Knowledge, Science, and Empire is
particularly interesting.

In a word, I cannot give yes-or-no answers to your questions. And
that's not because I "support" plagarism in any way, as you seek to
construe. FN
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