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Re: enter Imran Khan (Eddie) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2018 10:53:00 -0400 From: Nelson Lopes <nellope...@gmail.com> To: "Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!" <goanet@lists.goanet.org>, GOA THOMSON <goathom...@gmail.com>, "Dr. Armando Da Silva" <dr_armando_dasi...@hotmail.com> Subject: [Goanet] enter imran Khan Message-ID: <cajp2+q1kyy-jk2jotru0gqeidnuh34txcrvjgae3oiglhop...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" ENTER IMRAM KHAN New P.M of Pakistan has been sworn in . Whether it bodes well for India time alone will tell, notwithstanding the invitation to India. May be cricket diplomacy like pink pong earlier may be attempted. His role as a captain, bowler, batsman may provide the spark if resumed, Cricket is like a emotional, passionate war of sorts between the neighbours ,substitute for physical engagement In the past too attempts have been made by all sides for rapprochement without much success The people of Pakistan invest in democracy with a hope, expectations and aspiration for change of order for better. The civilian Govts have suffered the same disease of maneuvering by military establishment from behind. Ms Bhuto blowing hot and cold was eliminated by design not by accident as it appears to be. Musharaf too made news wearing a mask of peace and waging the infamous Kargil war .The actions of Sharif alienated the establishment, who tried to put a spork in is wheel of developing cordial relations The war cries and bugles is favourite diet of military to keep in them in the reckoning .No one dares to rub them on the wrong sides. Musharaf is in exile with all his patriotic flavor having the taste of his own medicine he administered to his predecessor Since the military establishment cannot dislodge the democratic Govt by a coup, they embroil their unamenable leaders in the cauldron of soup of economic offences Military coup will lead to crippling economic sanctions that will not be to the advantage of military bosses and that is why they thread a beaten path. Already winds of allegations of corruption are blowing against the new incumbent, meant to send a subtle warning. The civilian Govt is always check mated for trying to pursue a liberal approach towards India and must receive tacit approval of military establishment, hence the democratic Govt in Pakistan is constantly under a strain to please the military. The military is pursuing a low intensity war of terrorism bleeding India with non-state actors, jihadi groups and terrorist training camps on its soil with denial mode as its strategy The one solution that could reign in peace is the suggestion that LOC be converted into International border. Both sides give up their hardened stand to re occupy the positions held as present. Improvement of trade, exchange of visitors person to person contact, stopping export of cross border terrorism with military support and reigning in the jihadi groups can at least bring about thaw in hostile relations The threat of nuclear war is a bogey that will have consequences for warring groups with economic disaster for already a ruined economy of Pakistan, The cold war bitterness between Russia, China, USA for strategic foothold in the region is no more the avowed purpose and Pakistan no more holds its cards The Afghanistan issue is no more the bone of contention to give Pakistan aid, which has been misused Imran Khan as the new P.M carries the weight on his shoulders .He has to please the military establishment , not alienate the powerful Jihadi groups nurtured and cultivated by military and fulfill the aspiration of people who have put him in the saddle to deliver growth, prosperity in a peaceful environment The people of Pakistan by and large want friendly relations with India. It s their hope that Imram Khan will meet their aspirations Nelson Lopes Chinchinim ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2018 11:59:50 -0400 From: Roland Francis <roland.fran...@gmail.com> To: goa...@goanet.org Subject: [Goanet] What?s Goan? Message-ID: <2df1c035-8a0c-455b-8013-c197e035c...@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Probable answers from well known entities to Bennet Paes? question ?What?s Goan?: Parrikar: One whom you can feed anything. Parsekar: One from whom you can take anything. Rane: One who will clean anything. Sardessai: One who can be easily betrayed. Churchill: One who will pay anything. Pacheco: One against whom you can threaten anything. Monserrate: One to whom you can lend anything (with collateral). Kamat: One from whose land you can strip anything. Alemao: One with whom you can trade public works for private money. Drug Dealer: One to whom you can sell anything (potent of course). Haryanvi: One from whom you can buy anything (preferably land and home). Seafood Trader: One whose fish you can lace with anything. FDA and Coroner: One for whom you can write any report you feel like and change anytime you feel like. Journalists: One who will believe anything. Bennet Paes wrote: WHAT?S GOAN? I used to tell my daughter: ?Always remember, you are a Goan?. I did not say ?a Goan first? because I could not invent an order of priorities. Her older son?s British school asked him to wear his national dress at a school function. So his father bought him an Indian outfit for the occasion. The little fellow asked his father: ?Is that Goan?? The father told him: ?Ask your grandfather.? I remain nonplussed; can anyone tell what?s 'Goan? Roland. ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2018 17:26:49 +0100 From: "Eddie" <gdig...@btinternet.com> To: "GOANET" <goanet@lists.goanet.org> Subject: Re: [Goanet] enter Imran Khan Message-ID: <58A04FB0E1904138BF781A6D97BD3C8E@EddieHP> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8"; reply-type=original Nelson, are you sure that Imran Khan was sworn in today as PM? According to the reliable paper DAWN, he will be sworn in as PM on Sat, 18th August. So what has happened today? DAWN had this to say: "The day began with a 31-gun salute in the capital, followed by 21-gun salutes in all four provincial capitals. The main ceremony was hosted at Islamabad's Jinnah Convention Centre, where President Mamnoon Hussain hoisted the national flag. The ceremony was also attended by caretaker Prime Minister Nasirul Mulk, the three chiefs of the armed forces and other notable personalities and foreign dignitaries. Flag hoisting ceremonies were held in the provincial capitals as well as district headquarters. Army chief Gen Qamar Javed Bajwa, NA speaker Ayaz Sadiq and Senate chairman Sadiq Sanjrani attend the independence day ceremony. " Eddie ========================================= -----Original Message----- From: Nelson Lopes Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2018 3:53 PM To: Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994! ; GOA THOMSON ; Dr. Armando Da Silva Subject: [Goanet] enter imran Khan ENTER IMRAM KHAN New P.M of Pakistan has been sworn in . Whether it bodes well for India time alone will tell, notwithstanding the invitation to India. May be cricket diplomacy like pink pong earlier may be attempted. His role as a captain, bowler, batsman may provide the spark if resumed, Cricket is like a emotional, passionate war of sorts between the neighbours ,substitute for physical engagement In the past too attempts have been made by all sides for rapprochement without much success ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2018 17:52:15 +0100 From: "Eddie" <gdig...@btinternet.com> To: "GOANET" <goanet@lists.goanet.org> Subject: [Goanet] MACAU: surging ahead Message-ID: <40DB0E2F30C346EE9555CCF97680013D@EddieHP> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8"; reply-type=original Roland, Not surprised that Macau will end up as Qatar of the East. It seems that whatever the Chinese touch turn to gold. The Portuguese must be hiding their heads in shame. Here is some more info on Macau: [pity that Goanet disallows images.] Casinos in this former Portuguese colony, which returned to China in 1999, now earn eight times more than they do in Las Vegas. Casino jobs, which pay 30-40 percent higher than in other sectors, approach a quarter of the labor force. Add in casino-related positions like retailing and hospitality, and about half the working population in this city of 600,000 is connected to the gaming industry. The result is an enviable unemployment rate of 1.8 percent. Macau?s gaming economy is creating a generation of workers steeped in the monotonous work of baccarat dealing and spinning roulette wheels, but with few of the transferable skills needed in today?s globalized knowledge economy. The gamblers are mainly from the mainland, a situation that may suit Beijing just fine. =============================================== Let's also outline other wonders achieved by China generally: - has built a second aircraft carrier [while India keeps begging Russia to renovated old carriers - has built its own passenger jet - its bullet train seems to the Japanese version which is being bought by Modi. - has built a hydrogen-powered tram [pollution free] - China's supercomputer is the world's fastest - has built am 50 km bridge to Macau - is building a gravity waves simulator - on par with the US in scientific research. India is miles behind [relying on godmen perhaps??] - FOREX exceeds $3 trillion Read more: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqWDf-B-oBU Eddie ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2018 22:46:40 +0530 From: Tensing Rodrigues <ten...@gmail.com> To: goa...@goanet.org, goa-research-...@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Goanet] Can non-resident Indians please shut up? Message-ID: <CABPxU2gpKt_DXZOqmN4xkV75UL2a+ckosHqRY=1k=3z5oqd...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Can the people of Indian origin not living in India please shut up? They seem to have an opinion about everything and anything that is happening in and to Mother India. Sitting in the comfort of their Dollar and Pound and Euro ensconced cushiness, they have the temerity to tell Indians in India about what is right and what is wrong. https://www.dailyo.in/politics/nris-intolerance-aamir-khan-narendra-modi-rajnath-singh-people-of-indian-origin-ocis-pseudo-nationalism/story/1/7685.html ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2018 19:04:17 +0100 From: "Eddie" <gdig...@btinternet.com> To: "GOANET" <goanet@lists.goanet.org> Subject: [Goanet] TARIQ ALI on VS NAIPAUL Message-ID: <EC05F834705A498CA8B3F0ACA2BB9455@EddieHP> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8"; reply-type=original Tariq Ali is a respected intellectual & writer living in UK. He studied Philosophy, Politics, and Economics at Exeter College, Oxford and elected President of the Oxford Union in 1965. He was an activist in the Vietnam War & engaged in debates against the war with the likes of Henry Kissinger and Michael Stewart. He has long been associated with the New Left Review; his partner Susan Watkins is Editor. Naipaul and C.L.R. James were educated at the same colonial school. The high quality of teaching in classics and English literature left its mark on both men. Both of them came to England. James moved to Marxism and became a great historian in that tradition. Naipaul cultivated a cultural conservatism that later became his hallmark both politically and socially. The classical heritage of the European bourgeoisie had completely bewitched him. He saw it as the dominant pillar of Western civilisation and this led him to underplay, ignore and sometimes to justify its barbaric sides both at home and abroad. He lived his life through a circle of friends that he had carefully selected. Most, if not all, were figures on the right. Whatever his politics, the novels were very good, especially the earlier ones. The autobiographical 'A House for Mr Biswas' remains a comic masterpiece. And it would have made an excellent TV series. Would he ever agree? It wasn?t a secret that Naipaul had long opposed his work being transferred to small or big screen. Twenty-odd years ago I rang him up and was invited to lunch. His US agent had once forced him to fly out to ?discuss filming A Bend in the River ? with Francis Coppola. Against his own instincts, Naipaul arrived on the West Coast. At the hacienda, Coppola informed him that the only other guest apart from family would be George Lucas. During supper Coppola handed Naipaul a script that he had commissioned. He wanted Naipaul to have a quick read of the adaptation and see what he thought. He turned down the proposal. His second wife, Nadira, whom he married in 1996, persuaded him to calm down and let Ismail Merchant commission Caryl Phillips to write a script of The Mystic Masseur. Naipaul was filled with foreboding that it might turn out to be awful. ?It did.? This was not a promising start. He asked why I liked A House for Mr Biswas. ?It?s pure,? I replied, ?and very funny.? He agreed we should have a go. Farrukh Dhondy, he agreed, knew the book well and Channel Four commissioned the scripts. Peter Ansorge was a stern invigilator and made sure that most of the dialogue from the novel was retained. Naipaul and Nadira and Gillon Aitken (his agent) were pleased with the final product. But Channel Four wanted white actors and the project was dropped. Read more in https://www.lrb.co.uk/blog/2018/08/13/tariq-ali/mr-fords-hacienda/ ------------------------- Eddie ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2018 23:21:34 +0530 From: Frederick Noronha <fredericknoron...@gmail.com> To: Goanet <goa...@goanet.org> Subject: [Goanet] Kingfisher, beer, Mallya Message-ID: <CAMCR53JA=57ukgrfpt4y8py_22vn4e+5k8mbu8zmxtgcd1_...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Harsh Goenka @hvgoenka on Twitter: Seeing the several Kingfisher beer bottles in my fridge, my friend asked: "What is this for?" I replied: "I'm doing what the banks and the Government could not do... freezing the properties of Vijay Mallya. After freezing, I will also liquidate these assets." -- _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ _/ _/ FN * ????????? ???????? * ??????? ???????? +91-9822122436 _/ RADIO GOANA: https://archive.org/details/@fredericknoronha _/ _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2018 23:37:40 +0530 From: Frederick Noronha <fredericknoron...@gmail.com> To: Goanet <goa...@goanet.org> Subject: [Goanet] Sashtikar cursing Rane in Konkani... Message-ID: <camcr53+yuo0ftsqab4dvcmigwnnh-df3+bmxu7f66osdruk...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" ...in a London train gets 23k views, 854 likes (and 39 dislikes): https://youtu.be/HGReubbgRTM ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2018 14:12:57 -0400 From: Venantius J Pinto <venantius.pi...@gmail.com> To: "Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!" <goanet@lists.goanet.org> Cc: goanet <goa...@goanet.org>, goa-research-...@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Goanet] Can non-resident Indians please shut up? Message-ID: <CAOY3LjP3FFHD0hNbPu==ppudhzfkpr9trcnuyt3fc6c3kad...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hi Tensing! Your post brought some thought to mind. I live abroad and have no objections to your thought. But would like to offer a general suggestion. One can only hope our fellows avoid making any blanket statements, providing some material, a topic, or point out the erroneous suggestion, etc. I am not prone to taking umbrage, and do not include myself in this congeries of "people of Indian origin not living in India;" still, I do appreciate clarity. Thinking cogently until it becomes the norm in any being takes time. Writing is a whole other matter. Many in the West, including me (this is one way to be real by looking closer at oneself) are not doing well. "Ensconced cushiness?!" Temerity?! Well. those who fall into that sense of privileges (or, lets simply say they work hard, as do their old families in Goa) do not say much. On Goanet there are a few who express on a variety of issues. Most of the alphas have gone way. Other probably are succumbing to illnesses. I can say these things. Then there are others who are simply living their good lives, helping some and going about their business. The same who helped in whatever way to help jumpstart endeavors, buying bibiks, sharing knowledge, etc. Speaking for self, rather than go Bhasma, found it better to develop a thicker skin. In my case, it had to do with protecting myself from some in the Desh. Note I did not say all. Venantius J Pinto On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 1:16 PM, Tensing Rodrigues <ten...@gmail.com> wrote: > Can the people of Indian origin not living in India please shut up? They > seem to have an opinion about everything and anything that is happening in > and to Mother India. Sitting in the comfort of their Dollar and Pound and > Euro ensconced cushiness, they have the temerity to tell Indians in India > about what is right and what is wrong. > > https://www.dailyo.in/politics/nris-intolerance-aamir-khan-narendra-modi- > rajnath-singh-people-of-indian-origin-ocis-pseudo- > nationalism/story/1/7685.html > ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2018 19:43:50 +0100 From: "Eddie" <gdig...@btinternet.com> To: "GOANET" <goanet@lists.goanet.org> Subject: Re: [Goanet] enter Imran Khan Message-ID: <DFE2FC481ED64A20907CC767A4749461@EddieHP> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8"; reply-type=response Nelson, are you sure that Imran Khan was sworn in today as PM? According to the reliable paper DAWN, he will be sworn in as PM on Sat, 18th August. So what has happened today? DAWN had this to say: "The day began with a 31-gun salute in the capital, followed by 21-gun salutes in all four provincial capitals. The main ceremony was hosted at Islamabad's Jinnah Convention Centre, where President Mamnoon Hussain hoisted the national flag. The ceremony was also attended by caretaker Prime Minister Nasirul Mulk, the three chiefs of the armed forces and other notable personalities and foreign dignitaries. Flag hoisting ceremonies were held in the provincial capitals as well as district headquarters. Army chief Gen Qamar Javed Bajwa, NA speaker Ayaz Sadiq and Senate chairman Sadiq Sanjrani attend the independence day ceremony. " Eddie ========================================= -----Original Message----- From: Nelson Lopes Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2018 3:53 PM To: Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994! ; GOA THOMSON ; Dr. Armando Da Silva Subject: [Goanet] enter imran Khan ENTER IMRAM KHAN New P.M of Pakistan has been sworn in . Whether it bodes well for India time alone will tell, notwithstanding the invitation to India. May be cricket diplomacy like pink pong earlier may be attempted. His role as a captain, bowler, batsman may provide the spark if resumed, Cricket is like a emotional, passionate war of sorts between the neighbours ,substitute for physical engagement In the past too attempts have been made by all sides for rapprochement without much success End of Goanet Digest, Vol 13, Issue 383 ***************************************