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Get your free subscription at: http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-sports-goanet.org ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Selma, I would think the goal is *really* to make you *defensive* so that we can safely shift the debate from current-day to 400 years back. So why would you want that to succeed? As far as there being an "attach on the Church" goes, i would say if criticism is inaccurate, then we can safely ignore it. If it is true, then we need to do something to improve the situation that is being described. Motives are important too. Do you believe C.A.Bhandare and his team -- who have suddenly descended on Goanet as if on cue -- sincely wants to improve the role of religion in our world with his selective critiques, or does he just want to justify current-day injustices by pointing to (real or imagined or exaggerated) injustices from centuries ago? I think every religion, ideology (including 'secular' ones), political party, linguistic and ethnic group has some dark and some positive sides to it. We can find what we want, depending on where we go digging. Frankly, I wouldn't decide my approach based on the critique of people trying to score points and justify dubious current-day ideologies by pointing to the past. In my view, *every* religion (and ideology too) needs to reform and improve itself, so that it can play a more pro-people and positive role in our planet. -FN [Goanet] Knights of Columbus/to FN Carvalho elisabeth_car at yahoo.comensive. --------------------------------- Your darn right Frederick. I am defensive. You think a red-blooded shastikaan like me would take an attack on the church lying down? It's not about my God is better than yours, it's about exposing hate mongers who are out to spread lies about other communities be it based on caste, occupation or religion. I'm all for reforming religion from within and without. Infact I'm for totally banning religion influencing public life altogether and keeping it a strictly private affair. Public religion has caused too much destruction in this world. selma -- FN: Frederick Noronha Phone 0091-832-2409490 http://wikiwikiweb.de/MyContacts