My regrets, Filomena, if the essence of my cynicism is taken literally. As for the Basilica, check the thread. I merely pitched in where others initiated the concept.
Dom On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 2:49 PM Filomena Giese <filomenagi...@yahoo.com> wrote: > Hi Eddie > Funny thing - yesterday I was wondering where you are these days Your > retirement was years ago your emails and posts have become infrequent- and > I miss them. > You have replied to Dom in your succinct style, in a few short but totally > true words. No point in continuing this conversation with someone > prejudiced against one’s own community. We have surely had the same > discussion with him before. > My Nirvana will be to have as little to do, perhaps nothing, with male > patriarchal clericalism. One lifetime is enough. We got JosephVaz his > just recognition. > Let me know if Dom ever tells you why he wants a basilica now when he > never did anything for his cause. > I send warm good wishes > Filomena > > > ————————— > Filomena Giese > Mobile: +1 510 3251803 > > > > > On Aug 7, 2019, at 3:40 AM, BT Yahoo Mail <gdig...@btinternet.com> wrote: > > > Hi Dom, > > I couldn't quite follow your line of thought. > Your choice of words is intriguing but also more cryptic than clear. > What are 'ancestral perceptions'? And what has 'astral' to do with them? > You then name three architects, including a legendary Egyptian and move on > to Fr Jose Vaz, now a saint. No black or brown Catholic can become a saint > without formal approval by the holy white guys at the Vatican. > > It is true that it took nearly three centuries for Vaz to become saint. > First, a bit of history: > Vaz died in Kandy (Ceylon) in 1711 after a long illness. His cause for > sainthood was taken up within two years of his death by the Jesuit Bishop > of Cochin. Vaz's order, the Oratorians, investigated his 'miracles' and > sent the results to Rome. Pope Benedict XIV was not impressed and dismissed > the petition in 1742. > The cause was revived at the turn of the 20th century. A great deal of > evidence on miracles was collected and submitted to the austere Pope Pius > XII in 1956. More petitions by bishops and laity followed. The Eurocentric > Pope was not moved. > > [In contrast, the Spaniard, Junipero Serra, who had founded the Franciscan > missions in California in the 18 century was beatified in 1988 despite > strong objections from Native Americans and 40 American historians & > anthropologists. His cause was started just four years earlier, in 1884. > The European Vatican supports their own compatriots.] > > And by the way, Dom, why your special interest in a Basilica for St Vaz? > > Eddie > > -------------------------------------------------- > > On Tuesday, 6 August 2019 17:50:30 BST, dom martin < > dommartin9...@gmail.com> wrote: > > As mortals, our ancestral perceptions are more terrestrial than astral. > However, there are stellar exceptions in the likes of Imhotep, Leonardo de > Vinci, Frank Lloyd Wright, etc. > > In the Goan galaxy, we have a glowing deprivation. It took us almost three > centuries before we could huff and puff a fellow Goan up a divine pedestal. > Given that track record, it will likely take another three centuries before > we see the realization of the Basilica of St. Jose Vaz. > > However, now that our very own Santo Bhav has a new email address > (st.jose...@heaven.god), perhaps, he can pull some strings, as well as > miraculously jump-start the quadriplegic Goan hamstring, so that Goenkars > can swiftly band together and rubber-band the requisite capital to complete > the Basilica on or before Goanet's Ruby (or Rubaiyat) jubilee! > > PS: Some three decades ago, I contributed 50,000 rupees towards the then > Blessed Jose's cause. If that sum was petrified into a CD, it should now be > significant enough to serve as the first official “fator” for the proposed > Basilica. And since musculoskeletal ailments have incapacitated my palette, > I am graciously willing to offer what is left of my corpus as an easel to > fellow artists, so that when they are called upon to dedicate their > creativity to St. Jose's glory, they can oblige without fret, let or > hindrance! > > Dom Martin > > >