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Get your free subscription at: http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-sports-goanet.org ------------------------------------------------------------------------ --- Sunith Velho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Further evidence of the type of completely fake > secularism that Selma tries > to portray, by using different yardsticks for > different people. > > If what you say above is true, why is the richest > nation on Earth, the USA > also the epicentre of Christian fundamentalism. Is > George Bush not part of > the so called 'American dream'. ------- Response: Sunith before you write utter drivel, you should do some research. The Christian fundamentalist movement in the US, as known as Evangelicals or Pentecostal Christians, come from the poor deep South of America, constituting primarily of whites (74%) and most likely not to have had a college education. So again, my theory holds true, that extreme fundamentalist religious ideas take root in poverty and lack of education. Sunith wrote: > Are the Wahabi's in Saudi Arabia impoverished? Was > Osama not from one of the > richest families there. ---- Response: Another misleading and unresearched statement. Yes, Osama was rich but why is it that he was able to gain support in Saudi? Saudi has one of the most inequitable distributions of wealth in the Gulf region. You don't find fundamental extremism in Dubai or Kuwait or even Bahrain (although it exists here in pockets again due to poverty). Osama has had a hold on the economically disadvantaged from Saudi, to Yemen to Afghanistan, where he was finally able to establish a base. Sunith wrote: > Did the Hindutva movement rise from the poorest > classes i.e. the Dalits? ----- Response: The Hindutva movement is strictly speaking not a fundamentalist movement. It's a nationalistic movement with religious overtones. It might well have started with the elite of Indian society but again who are its foot-soldiers? Do you find the Indian middle-class running around closing down cinema halls, banning Valentine's Day, desecrating libraries and artwork? No, they are happy with their Sony TVs and Tata Indigo cars. The more India brings its citizens under the umbrella of middle-class material bliss, the less fertile ground communalism will find. Sunith wrote: > It seems like organised religion (in its aggressive > form) is the only common > denominator in all the above cases, but Selma is > afraid to say it lest she > jeopardise her position of a closet Vatican loyalist > parading as an > 'agnostic secular humanist', who opposes > fundamentalism by all except those > of her faith tradition. ----- Response: Closet Vatican loyalist? I think I'm critical enough of the Church. Sunith wrote: > Pardon me Selma, but your slip has been showing for > a long time now. > > Sunith Velho ----- Response: Only good things happen when my slip starts showing :-) selma ____________________________________________________________________________________ Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when. http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/222