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Get your free subscription at: http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-sports-goanet.org ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Hi Kevin Thank you for your considered response to Gilbert. I'd like to make just two observations: a) I assume that it would be reasonable to expect Gilbert to agree with the last line in your long post.."Education with factual evidence based on the scientific method is the only way to redeem ourselves in this world". This assumes however that, one may indeed want to be redeemed from early religious indoctrination and the bigotry and blinkers it generally provides for life. b) I had run into a Knight of Columbus (fully togged up including sword in scabbard), at a Goan Association SFX social many years ago next to the Catholic Cathedral in Victoria, London. He was the only one in this strange fancy dress and in utter astonishment, I actually blurted out within earshot of some, asking why this bloke had worn the "fancy dress"? Needless to say, some in the conservative crowd ( around the Cardinal who was present), were not amused by my cheek! However, I did get a chance to have a five minute conversation with the Cardinal in a one to one situation. He expressed much praise, to me, for the Catholic Goans in London. But I did put him right by disclosing, to his seeming astonishment, but clear understanding, that many Catholic Goans carried caste racism in their hearts and minds. Indeed, as much as Gilbert dislikes my consistent reference to caste racism among the Catholic Goans, I hope to publish a substantive article in the international Catholic Press on this issue. It will then be up to Gilbert, the Archbishop (or anyone else) to choose to refute what I say in the same international media. What I have always found strange is Gilbert's insistence that caste racism among Catholic Goans is insignificant when there is so much evidence for it that, "it is like oxygen, in the very air Goans breathe in Goa" and as recounted to me by a Goanetter for whom I have much respect. Moreover, while Catholicism says "love thy neighbour as thyself", caste racism actually wants people to despise those lower down on a 'social scale' within a peculiar immutable social structure having absolutely no scientific validity, Further, in my view, it is the underpinning factor determining much lack of social solidarity among Goans except at a very superficial level and is also what the Catholic Church in Goa has condoned for generations when it should have known better in its claim as a moral force. But enough of this for now! There will be more on this from me when I get a chance to reply to posts from Gilbert and another Goanetter reasonably soon and when I can properly get back to Plain Text that has bugged me for some time. Cornel DaCosta People's/Proletariat Vaddo, DR04 CDC, London, UK. Kevin Saldanha wrote: Dear Gilbert, ....Education with factual evidence based on the scientific method is the only way to redeem ourselves in this world.