Hello Sonia, Appreciate your intervention. All helps when done in grace. vjp
<http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> Virus-free. www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> On Wed, Feb 3, 2021 at 12:21 PM Sonia Gomes <rgso...@gmail.com> wrote: > The Konkani word for chapel as we know is kopel (NOT Kopal), previously/ > "copel." > Kopal is the forehead! > > Chapel > Portuguese Capela > Capilla Spanish. > > There a large chapels too. For example Capela de Livramento Benaulim, In > Benaulim most of the Chapels are large. > Roadside chapels would be shrines, they are not Kopellam but Khuris. > > Grotto in Konkani, is quite possibly Grotto in Konkani too. > Gotto (the same word as for a cowshed, > crib, or as we grew up hearing: stable). > > This is how it is in my part. > > Warm wishes > > Sonia > > + > > > > On Wed, 3 Feb 2021 at 13:06, Venantius J Pinto <venantius.pi...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > Worth interacting with Vavraddeancho Ixtt, Pilar, or TSKK, Porvorim! > > > > The Konkani word for chapel as we know is kopel (NOT Kopal), previously/ > > "copel." In the earlier orthography there was no "k," along with a couple > > of other letters. In any case Kopal is a first for me. Perhaps gone under > > my radar. Indeed, bring in the experts! There are many who have to be > > approached. > > > > Chapel > Portuguese, Capilla > Konkani Copel/ now Kopel. A chapel small > as > > it is, a smaller one would be an oratory but there is no specific > dimension > > other than what it is attached to, or whether it is stand alone on the > > narrow village paths. now, roads or leading into villages. In Goa it's > all > > small > Just perhaps somewhere such distinctions are made. > > > > Grotto in Konkani, is quite possibly gotto (the same word as for a > cowshed, > > crib, or as we grew up hearing: stable). Hopefully this will inspire > > someone to contribute from their largesse .... indeed, of knowledge. > > > > + > > My mother always referred to the grotto at the OL of Dolors Church, > Wadala, > > as gotto. Very little education due to extenuating circumstances, yet, > the > > old gal knew a thing or two about words, as I do in other areas and > > languages. She may have been wrong, and anyway passed away last year > > stumped short of 90. Loved my cribs and the backdrops I painted in the > > smaller of the two spaces. Worlds lost, little worlds that assisted me in > > my visual magic. And proverbs abounded in our home. Yeah! > > > > An aside and tangential here: Very few words are directly cognate (Many > > thousands from English into Spanish) - and many others sound close but > mean > > different. > > + > > > > Anyway! > > > > Venantius J Pinto > > > > > > > > On Tue, Feb 2, 2021 at 12:25 PM Adolfo Mascarenhas <adca...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > I need help. I do not want to cross swords with the Clergy in Goaland. > > > The Clergy can have a big say about a Kopal .....the edifice can also > be > > > used to collect funds. > > > > > > There is a great deal of difference between a Chapel or KOPAL and what > in > > > English is called a Grotto .I have no idea what the Konkoni word is > for > > > GROTTO > > > Even an individual family. ;like in .BRAZ VILLA, in Upanga Dar es > > Salaam, > > > in the Garden the garden of the Dias family, they have built a > Grotto. I > > > have not heard that there was ever a Ladahin said ????. > > > Stay Safe > > > > > > Grandolfo > > > In Makongo Juu > > > > > > In Fatima ...Our Lady appeared in a dry land, a Grotto was built > > > subsequently I think / > > > > > >