Bhandare (On 04/11/2007) : We goans need to solve our problems and not let outsiders fish in troubled waters..
JC: We may wish to ask ourselves: The outsiders never fished like this before 1961. Why are they able to fish now? What besides the departure of the Portuguese happened after 1961? Barad: Is JC trying to project that Portuguese were insiders? Surprised!! Have they as outsiders not "Fished and Troubled Goa" during their rule. Have they not "Fished You" from your originality and converted you to Christian! Should we not call those conversion attempts "Dirty Fishing"! jc's response: Dears, May I suggest that those (like the Dr. Barad) who seek to respond to my posts, please read the posts in context? I do accept that English is a difficult language - for some, more than others. Even so, please let us engage our brains before we open our mouths (figuratively). NOW, please ascertain WHICH "outsiders" Bhandare and Rajan Parrikar have been writing (and Rajan posting photographs) about. YES, once again - please refer to context. MY position (and I repeat for the sound byte wallas): After 1961, legally - there is NO such thing as an Indian citizen bhaillo or bhaillem in Goa. ALL Indian citizens have as much land rights in Goa as do any Goans. They can buy the land, sell the land and do whatever they wish to do with that land within the legal parameters set out by the various zoning restrictions. YES - money will talk! These alleged "bhailles" could not do this for 400+ years before 1961 - could they? Is the (immediately) above statement that difficult to comprehend? or do we need to express our innate need to go on a weird tangent every single time? BTW, as far as my 'originality and conversion to Christianity': I really do not know what form of religion or atheism my fore-fore-forebears followed. They possibly worshiped some Kunbi or Gavdi God or a Coconut tree, only to converted to the Brahman dominated Casteism by the Aryans who came down from up north; then re-converted to Buddhism during Ashoka's time, only to be reconverted to Hinduism, Islam during the various bloody battles that Hindu and Muslim rulers fought over what was then Goa .... to be followed by the Christian conversion. I do not believe that ANY of the above conversions were voluntary. I strongly believe that every single conversion was involuntary. Dr. Barad is right. Every single 'conversion' that Goans have had imposed upon them has been 'dirty'. Every single imposed one - and that includes Brahmanism/Casteism, Buddhism, Islam and Christianity. I can tell you this though - my personal continuance as a Catholic is absolutely voluntary. jc