Hi Basilio,

Read your posts on this topic with great interest.  Likely you read my short 
rejoinder to what you wrote. (reproduced below)

Initially,  I did not know whether to laugh or cry after reading Cornel's many 
many posts on Caste.  Mostly I was bemused. Yet, I respectfully tried to help 
him see through his logic of "Guilt by Association", or "Creative Mixology" of 
facts and accounts, and pointing out some of the observations, as you so 
eloquently made.
 
Well after some experience, I have come to the same conclusions as you.  You 
are smarter than me and arrived at a solution a lot sooner. I think I will 
follow your recommendations - just brilliant.  Now Cornel (and others) will 
have to quarrel with himself.  

Yet, Cornel did get me to think about the Goan trait of casteism. In many 
decades of living and traveling, I have met a lot of people who boost their own 
ego by "spinning" or "plain BS".  Yet as often seen on Goanet, Goans have the 
unique ability to fib AND / while at the same time / breath demean another 
person or institution, without adding anything original of their own creation.

In casteism there are many victims including our society as a whole.  The 
perpetrator is into self-aggrandizement and glorifies his mediocrity which 
others may emulate.  The victim is unjustly maligned with innuendos and ad 
hominem attacks.  It is time that progressive Goanetters point to and denounce 
casteism on Goanet, even when it is camouflaged in sophisticated English.

Self-acclaimed anti-casteists should stop looking for casteists under the bed 
or behind church or temple doors; and perhaps look for them in the mirror.  The 
leaders who have fought discrimination, have done it by action and not led from 
behind a typewriter or keyboard. 

Kind Regards, GL


---------------- Basilio Monteiro: 

Did I in my post defend the origination / perpetuation of caste? or did I imply 
for the need of a different approach to deal with the caste problem given the 
historical evidence that caste has nothing to do with Hinduism as a religion? 

He is responding to something that I did not write or imply. 
 
I do not operate from the premise of "hanv teka borench ditam." 

I have no plans or interest to quarrel with Cornel. Indeed, I have nothing to 
quarrel about with him. 
 

------------------- Gilbert Lawrence:
After "being beaten" by Mario, he pays me a great compliment by adopting my 
definition of casteism .... as his own. (see below). :=)) 
 
He and others say it is "time for ACTION", which I fully agree.  I suggest we 
end on Goanet (and in our lives) what one poster called "the tin horn 
one-up-man-ship". This is / was exemplified by taking a cheap shot at someone 
else - like at Basilio's post on "Hinduism and Caste".   

OK anti-casteists, let's practice what we preach. :=)) 

 
----------- From Mario Goveia: 
Cornel,  I think we have "inflated our resumes" enough:-)) 
 
a "system" of institutional discrimination to prove something about yourself at 
the expense of someone else.  It is time for ACTION.

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