Hi Basilio, Read your posts on this topic with great interest. Likely you read my short rejoinder to what you wrote. (reproduced below)
Initially, I did not know whether to laugh or cry after reading Cornel's many many posts on Caste. Mostly I was bemused. Yet, I respectfully tried to help him see through his logic of "Guilt by Association", or "Creative Mixology" of facts and accounts, and pointing out some of the observations, as you so eloquently made. Well after some experience, I have come to the same conclusions as you. You are smarter than me and arrived at a solution a lot sooner. I think I will follow your recommendations - just brilliant. Now Cornel (and others) will have to quarrel with himself. Yet, Cornel did get me to think about the Goan trait of casteism. In many decades of living and traveling, I have met a lot of people who boost their own ego by "spinning" or "plain BS". Yet as often seen on Goanet, Goans have the unique ability to fib AND / while at the same time / breath demean another person or institution, without adding anything original of their own creation. In casteism there are many victims including our society as a whole. The perpetrator is into self-aggrandizement and glorifies his mediocrity which others may emulate. The victim is unjustly maligned with innuendos and ad hominem attacks. It is time that progressive Goanetters point to and denounce casteism on Goanet, even when it is camouflaged in sophisticated English. Self-acclaimed anti-casteists should stop looking for casteists under the bed or behind church or temple doors; and perhaps look for them in the mirror. The leaders who have fought discrimination, have done it by action and not led from behind a typewriter or keyboard. Kind Regards, GL ---------------- Basilio Monteiro: Did I in my post defend the origination / perpetuation of caste? or did I imply for the need of a different approach to deal with the caste problem given the historical evidence that caste has nothing to do with Hinduism as a religion? He is responding to something that I did not write or imply. I do not operate from the premise of "hanv teka borench ditam." I have no plans or interest to quarrel with Cornel. Indeed, I have nothing to quarrel about with him. ------------------- Gilbert Lawrence: After "being beaten" by Mario, he pays me a great compliment by adopting my definition of casteism .... as his own. (see below). :=)) He and others say it is "time for ACTION", which I fully agree. I suggest we end on Goanet (and in our lives) what one poster called "the tin horn one-up-man-ship". This is / was exemplified by taking a cheap shot at someone else - like at Basilio's post on "Hinduism and Caste". OK anti-casteists, let's practice what we preach. :=)) ----------- From Mario Goveia: Cornel, I think we have "inflated our resumes" enough:-)) a "system" of institutional discrimination to prove something about yourself at the expense of someone else. It is time for ACTION.