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16-18, May 2008 http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2008-May/073789.html --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dear Mario, Once again, thank you for taking the time to reply to my e-mail, but you have not let me know about whether, you a Goan, can buy land in Kashmir. My reply - Yes, the Americans, are scary people, they elect an actor - Ronald Reagan, as President, but feel a highly educated, accomplished, well-experienced woman like Madam Hillary Clinto cannot be elected as the next Prez of the US. Yes, I guess, Hollywood actors do fit the American vision of leader of the USA. The number of excuses through e-mails sent by every US male, to me, are many and ridiculous, for not wanting a female President. Yes, we women around the globe are wondering who exactly will US males ever think, is the "right woman" to be elected as the US President. From what all women around the Globe are observing, "women power" does not exist in the USA. US women are forced to follow the decisions of their male counterparts, in electing a "MALE as the next US President, as US Males will never allow their country to be ruled by a "WOMAN". Your statement below - "Actually, you have unintentionally confirmed that the US is above making such important decisions based simply on gender or race, but on their perception of the whether the individual fits their idea of who they want to lead the country." My reply - I am amazed, that there are still, long over-night queues outide the US embassy where non-American Goans are waiting , nay harassing US officials to help them migrate to the US. Your statement below -"In case you missed it here is an unbiased opinion based on personal observation on what the US I know is like from a non-American Goan who lived here for several years": Yes, once again, the present Goan govtmt with the help of Goans are doing their best to preserve Goa, for the future of our children. I commend you, and all goans who are making an all-out effort to preserve the beauty of Goa. Regards, Jane Rodrigues ============================= From: Mario Goveia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [Goanet] suggestions please "protection of goan land" Date: 9 May 2008 11:16:56 -0000 From: "jane gillian rodrigues" > I enjoyed your replies to my e-mail, and thank you for the same, but you have not offered any solutions to "protecting Goan Land". > Mario responds: > Jane Gillian, > I spend my days wondering how I can provide you with an enjoyable education on how the world works:-)) > Regarding offering solutions, how did you miss the following post? > http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2008-April/072036.html > Starting with that post I have become like a stuck record on how Goa can protect it's environment through local zoning laws rather than authoritarian separatist Marxist notions that have no place in a modern democracy having failed wherever else they have been used. Zoning laws control development without stopping it and make it compatible with the surroundings, history, architecture, culture etc. > By the way, local zoning laws are not specific to the US, they are used across Europe and in every rational civilized country. > Jane Gillian wrote: > A) does the constitutional freedom to own personal property also include destroying nature? > Mario responds: > No it doesn't. Anyone who deliberately destroys nature should be locked up, after they are soundly spanked, and they should then throw away the key. > The real issue in a free democracy is who gets to decide whether an owner of private property is "destroying nature". Zoning laws, which are developed with local input, are a sensible solution that control development without preventing it and make it compatible with the local environment. Everyone wins. > Jane Gillian wrote: > Could you please explain to me why Aldonkars have taken a stand, making it the governments business to prevent misuse/sale of their village land to other Indians? What about SEZ??????? > Mario responds: > To begin with, my comment you are referring said it was none of the government's business why someone would want to sell their property, not what is done with the property after someone buys it. > Citizens in a democracy can get together collectively to influence their local legislators, as the Aldonkars did and the SEZ opponents as well. This is perfectly legitimate as long as it does not trample on the rights of minorities. These decisions can still be challenged in court and the legal system will arbitrate. All such heat and angst is precisely what zoning laws would avoid, up-front, before a project is approved, without village-wide or state-wide morchas on every project. > Jane Gillian wrote: > good suggestion, could you, or, any Goankar, suggest the name of a local goan businesswoman/man or others, who would provide this service to bungalow owners too? > Mario responds: > I will leave it up to those who live in Goa to refer you to private real estate and rental agents that rent property on behalf of absentee owners. > Jane Gillian wrote: > Thank you for referring to our Goa as a civilized, free, society. > Mario responds: > You are very welcome, and I want to keep it that way compared with those who want to intentionally or unintentionally turn it into an authoritarian separatist Marxist state. > Jane Gillian wrote: > A) The Voter gets the government she/he deserves. > Mario responds: > Isn't that what the Goans in Goa have right now? > Jane Gillian wrote: > (B) It is pretty scary, when we can see and hear a lot of people using the scariest of English words, to force the US govtmt, nay harass, the US govtmt to "help them", get into the US. > Mario responds: > I have no idea what you are talking about here. Unless they are being persecuted, no one gets into the US to get help from the US government which would prosecute and send them home if they are caught. However, the US Constitution does provide aliens who are in the country, whether legally or illegally, the same legal protections as citizens have. Immigrants mostly come to the US to get away from corrupt and socialist-type governments and for the limitless private opportunities of this free and diverse society. > In case you missed it here is an unbiased opinion based on personal observation on what the US I know is like from a non-American Goan who lived here for several years: > http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2008-April/072789.html > Jane Gillian wrote: > (C) As for the US PREZ - I am at a loss, for the scariest words in the English language, (but I will do my best), which states "It is a shame and a disgrace that US citizens do not want to be ruled by a woman - Madame Hillary Clinton. In fact, Oprah Winfrey and other US feminists who talk a lot about "women power", are doing their best to see that the US does not elect a Woman Prezident, although many countries around the world, had a female - Head of State. > Mario responds: > Actually, you have unintentionally confirmed that the US is above making such important decisions based simply on gender or race, but on their perception of the whether the individual fits their idea of who they want to lead the country. > Secondly, women-power is about women having the same rights as men - which includes not getting elected to some office just because they want it:-)) > You obviously know very little about the US which is a constitutional democracy. Presidents are elected based on a process where millions of individuals vote their opinion, not on whether someone thinks something is a "shame" or not. > The last time I checked Madame Hillary Clinton is still in the running as her party's candidate for the US Presidency and is being supported by close to 50% of her party. If she does not get the nomination it will have as little to do with her being a woman as his race will have to do with the decision if her opponent does not get the nomination. > I would like to thank you for allowing me to not only explain how Goa can control progress without stopping it and how the US democracy functions as well in choosing its Presidents. >