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South Asian Film Festival in Goa from Fri (June 27) to Mon (June 30) At Kala Academy, and ESG, Panaji, Goa http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2008-June/076384.html --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sir, I think it is an error to think that someone exploits the vaccum.This is like seeing only tip of iceberg When there is so much material on incitement and systematic propaganda in meetings going on for several years which can be seen if one reads marathi dailies. People attend such meetings because they are in the name of Hindu religion and offer to fight for Hinduism when volunteers are sought .They fall prey to ideological propaganda that Hindu religion is endangered.Who says Hindu religion is in danger?- The cults. We should study the material carefully to see the connection. Take the case of petrol bomb. Who will people blame- Naturally muslims because it was thrown at hospital where a Hindu activist was taking treatment.But if you read DNA paper " In November 2007, as multiple bombs went off in the court premises of Uttar Pradesh the majority pointed fingers at the Islamist groups. But a minority in the security establishment was not convinced enough, given the errors in the email warning sent out to media houses minutes before the blasts. Someone well versed in Islam had not drafted the mail, and it was more linked to the local politics of India than to the larger jehad goals, some point out." So the truth may not be what we see. Why should we think non Hindus attacked Quepem temple? It may well be done by some Hindus too so that minorities get attacked . http://www.dnaindia.com/report.asp?newsid=1173687 NEW DELHI: Is a fringe Hindu fundamentalist group, or groups, behind at least some of the bomb blasts across the country? The security establishment is once again seriously probing this angle in the wake of the arrest of several members of the Sanatan Sanstha and the Hindu Janajagruti Samiti for crude bombs planted in Mumbai in recent days. An official closely involved with anti-terror investigations all over Indiasays, "We are aware that some fringe Hindu groups want to carry out blasts, but we still don't know their spread and expertise. As of now we believe they don't have the training to make sophisticated explosives." The official, and at least two others, told DNA that there are at least a few blasts in recent years in which Hindu groups cannot be ruled out as suspects. For the past several years, some dependable intelligence sources have had a nagging suspicion that such outfits were active underground. In April 2006, a blast in Nanded gave evidence of their suspicions coming true. Two Hindu fanatics were killed and four injured in the blast, which happened when they were assembling bombs. Over the past two years, more evidence came in. The bombs that were going off at regular intervals all over India suddenly became locally assembled, no more was RDX — a key ingredient of the bombs — smuggled from Pakistan. "At least two of the blasts gave us further reason to believe that the Hindu fringe elements are involved," says a senior intelligence hand, referring to the blasts in Malegaon and Delhi's Jama Masjid in 2006. But with no concrete evidence emerging and Nanded remaining an isolated case, the security establishment had been back to focusing its energies on Islamist groups such as Harkat-ul-Jihad-Islami (HUJI) and Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT). The Central Bureau of Investigation has yet not been able to make any credible breakthroughs in their investigations into the blast in a Malegaonmosque in September 2006. "The local police had messed up, and now CBI is stuck," says a source privy to the investigations. Similarly, there are no publicly stated culprits behind the April 2006 blasts in the capital's historic Jama Masjid. In both the cases, agencies suspected from the very beginning that some fringe Hindu group could be behind it. Investigations into the Nanded blast had given credible inputs to prove that in April 2006, Hindu fanatics planted a bomb in a Parbhani mosque in which at least 25 people were injured. The same people were involved in the Nanded blasts. In November 2007, as multiple bombs went off in the court premises of Uttar Pradesh the majority pointed fingers at the Islamist groups. But a minority in the security establishment was not convinced enough, given the errors in the email warning sent out to media houses minutes before the blasts. Someone well versed in Islam had not drafted the mail, and it was more linked to the local politics of India than to the larger jehad goals, some point out. With the Maharashtra ATS now establishing the bomb making capabilities of the fringe Hindu groups, intelligence analysts are beginning to take a second look at the possibility of some of them having been involved in some blasts of the recent past. "As of now we believe that the Hindu groups do not have the capabilities to make sophisticated bombs, which remains the forte of the Islamic groups. But several of our recent inputs also show that we may have to study the Hindu groups more carefully," says a senior official in the security establishment. On 6/29/08, nilkanth naik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Absence of a solution is not allowing cults to dominate or for formation of > militancy.Cult is not Bal Thackeray, he is far away in Mumbai there is > someone in Goa itself who needs to be exposed > >> >> nn > > > > > You are putting too many points in the discussion, and giving solution >> to some other problems. >> >> I want to tackle the following problem first. It is not that I dont >> acknowledge there are other issues. >> >> A goon sexually harasses (eve-teasing is a mild word) a woman. In this >> case, he happens to be a Muslim. >> But in general, what are the remdies a woman has if she is sexually >> harassed by a guy. >> >> Can she go to the police ? No, the chances are the police themselves >> may harras her. >> >> So, there is a vacuum here, a problem that needs a solution. >> >> It is this vacuum that the Bajrang dal people take advantage of. >> In order to tackle Bajrang then, we need to >> a) either strengthen the police machinery >> b) come up with another solution to help the woman. >> >> What solution do you have ? >> >> Now dont digress into cults, blah blah blah. Yes, there are cults, there >> is terrorism, there is Bal Thakrey etc etc >> but the above problem is a different one from how cults attract people. >> >> regards, >> Samir >> >> >> >> >> >