The  reality on the ground is totally, absoulutely and certainly different.

Here we are not talking of susegad in the actual sense , we are not compalining 
, we are addressing an issue to have it heard , the world is getting more 
technologically well equipped to handle such applications be it fraud or 
otherwise , be it visa's or passports, we cannot be singing the same song of 
fraudlent stories for years , hence the delay in getting our nationality 
legalised.


I have visited the website be it in english and portuguese for six months now 
and yet nothing is happening,i have written mails to them yet nothing has 
happened no reply , they do not even acknowledge your mail, i only hope they do 
not think even the mails are fraudlent and hence do not want to respond. 

Nothing has changed , everything is the same be at the Portugal consulate  in 
Goa or portugal , whether they have a website or a satellite or a GPS or a VPN 
it's the same story,. I am not complaining i have done my bit and am still 
doing it , if we don't complain then we are sussegads if we complain we are 
also susegado, so what is the new catch word for us then?

Goans who are settled in Portugal should help fellow goans to find out and 
expedite in sorting out the pending applications. Just like all other 
communities help each other.

Those who are victims of such incidents are free to complain , but those Goans 
based in Portugal and  who have the capacity to help fellow goans 
should willingly and unconditionally help otherwise if one analyses the 
situation complaining about the incident by trying your level best is termed as 
Susegad, but those having the capacity to help but are not doing anything and 
only dictating i guess they too fall in the same slot.

Kind regards

Vivek
--- On Thu, 31/7/08, J. Colaco < jc> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> From: J. Colaco < jc> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [Goanet] Portuguese Nationality (Follow-up)
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!" 
> <goanet@lists.goanet.org>
> Date: Thursday, 31 July, 2008, 1:56 AM
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> Shashi wrote: Mails are not replied till months. The worst
> part is
> that the Portuguese consulate at Goa has confirmed this
> CRC stubbornness and further added they do not even reply
> to their own emails.
> 
> Edward D'Silva added: THIS AN OLD HABIT PICKED UP BY
> THE GOANS FROM
> THE PORTUGUESE. SUCEGADO.
> 
> 
> jc's response:
> 
> Four quick points:
> 
> [1] I do not know of a Portuguese word, 
> "SUCEGADO". If we have to
> massacre a word, might as well do it in fully by calling it
> "Sushegadh". At least that way there will be no
> pretense.
> 
> [2] Much of the information is available on line....just
> like
> documents eg birth certificates etc
> 
> There even is an english version for those who do not
> understand Portuguese
> 
> Check it out for yourself at:
> http://www.consuladoportugalgoa.com/initialpage1.php?PHPSESSID=9bc044181715d3cb6b1e8ae48eef9361
> 
> If that link fails try this one and access the English
> version from there.
> http://www.consuladoportugalgoa.com/initialpage.php#
> 
> Click on Application Status. You must have the correct
> numbers with
> you OR get them from the Consulate in Goa.
> 
> [3] With the vast number of fraudulent applications from
> India, please
> do not expect any sensible foreign Govt entity to respond
> to you in a
> hurry.
> 
> [4] This refers to the alleged 'confirmation of CRC
> stubborness' that
> Shashi got from the Goa Consulate.
> 
> Hear me!
> 
> That is a well known method of getting you to stop
> complaining. Have
> you not heard the Indian Airlines announcer telling you why
> your
> flight was delayed? "Because of late arrival of
> equipment"i.e. Indian
> Airlines' equipment!
> 
> In summary ...do your diligence. It takes time but mainly
> because of
> all the stuff which goes on.
> 
> Please see lead article at The Goan Forum:
> http://www.colaco.net
> 
> jc


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