--- On Mon, 3/2/09, Mario Goveia <mgov...@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > > What he describes as a Republican Senator's blog does, in fact contain > links to numerous sources of peer-reviewed studies written by reputable > and respected scientists who disagree with Santosh's point of view. > Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 09:28:31 -0800 (PST) From: Santosh Helekar <chimbel...@yahoo.com>
The above statement is false. The Republican senator's blog does not provide links to any peer-reviewed scientific studies at all. The only other scientific document which the Republican senator's political blog refers to is the following non-peer reviewed publication of Stephen Schwartz: http://www.ecd.bnl.gov/steve/pubs/HeatCapacity.pdf Mario responds: Santosh doesn't seem to understand that this thread is about whether there is a universal "consensus" on whether global warming is being caused by human activity, and whether the science is "settled". He seems to be getting increasingly desperate in his attempt to make Goanetters believe that the matter is settled and that the sky is going to fall if we all don't join him in his quest to save the world - from us. Hence, we see him quibbling about peer reviewed "studies" versus peer reviewed "articles" versus peer reviewed "publications". Santosh wrote: The only other scientific document which the Republican senator's political blog refers to is the following non-peer reviewed publication of Stephen Schwartz: http://www.ecd.bnl.gov/steve/pubs/HeatCapacity.pdf Mario responds: Unfortunately for Santosh's unscientific propaganda, the Editors of the Journal of Geophysical Research, as well as the author of the publication have confirmed that this is a peer reviewed article. They have confirmed this to me in response to an emailed inquiry from me. Anyone interested can privately ask me for the correspondence. Santosh concludes: What's more, all of the speculative arguments that they have made on internet blogs and websites, and in popular media and books have been roundly refuted by climate scientists. Mario asks: This is simply Santosh's amateur opinion. We all know what Santosh thinks about this issue even though he was not involved in any of the studies he is promoting, nor is he a climate scientist. He is a scientist in an unrelated field. On the other hand, there are several scientists in the field or fields that are closely related, who have looked at the same information that Santosh has and come to different conclusions. Finally, this is not to say that Santosh and those he believes will not be proven right a hundred years from now. It is to say that a) we don't know for sure, and b) serious scientists who are far more knowledgeable of this subject than Santosh disagree with his opinion. Santosh may claim they are wrong, but that doesn't mean they agree with him as their comments will show. Notice their credentials. I hope Santosh will refrain from any personal attacks or insinuations against these scientists, and show some respect for their dissenting opinions. However, I'm not holding my breath. 1. “I am a skeptic…Global warming has become a new religion.” - Nobel Prize Winner for Physics, Ivar Giaever. 2. “Since I am no longer affiliated with any organization nor receiving any funding, I can speak quite frankly….As a scientist I remain skeptical...The main basis of the claim that man’s release of greenhouse gases is the cause of the warming is based almost entirely upon climate models. We all know the frailty of models concerning the air-surface system.” - Atmospheric Scientist Dr. Joanne Simpson, the first woman in the world to receive a PhD in meteorology, and formerly of NASA, who has authored more than 190 studies and has been called “among the most preeminent scientists of the last 100 years.” 3. Warming fears are the “worst scientific scandal in the history…When people come to know what the truth is, they will feel deceived by science and scientists.” - UN IPCC Japanese Scientist Dr. Kiminori Itoh, an award-winning PhD environmental physical chemist. 4. “Anyone who claims that the debate is over and the conclusions are firm has a fundamentally unscientific approach to one of the most momentous issues of our time.” - Solar physicist Dr. Pal Brekke, senior advisor to the Norwegian Space Centre in Oslo. Brekke has published more than 40 peer-reviewed scientific articles on the sun and solar interaction with the Earth. 5. “The Kyoto theorists have put the cart before the horse. It is global warming that triggers higher levels of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere, not the other way round…A large number of critical documents submitted at the 1995 U.N. conference in Madrid vanished without a trace. As a result, the discussion was one-sided and heavily biased, and the U.N. declared global warming to be a scientific fact,” - Andrei Kapitsa, a Russian geographer and Antarctic ice core researcher. 6. “I am convinced that the current alarm over carbon dioxide is mistaken...Fears about man-made global warming are unwarranted and are not based on good science.” - Award Winning Physicist Dr. Will Happer, Professor at the Department of Physics at Princeton University and Former Director of Energy Research at the Department of Energy, who has published over 200 scientific papers, and is a fellow of the American Physical Society, The American Association for the Advancement of Science, and the National Academy of Sciences. 7. “Gore prompted me to start delving into the science again and I quickly found myself solidly in the skeptic camp…Climate models can at best be useful for explaining climate changes after the fact.” - Meteorologist Hajo Smit of Holland, who reversed his belief in man-made warming to become a skeptic, is a former member of the Dutch UN IPCC committee. 8. “CO2 emissions make absolutely no difference one way or another….Every scientist knows this, but it doesn’t pay to say so…Global warming, as a political vehicle, keeps Europeans in the driver’s seat and developing nations walking barefoot.” - Dr. Takeda Kunihiko, vice-chancellor of the Institute of Science and Technology Research at Chubu University in Japan.
