Seriously Naguesht, Marshall is not absolving the Old Dame, he is pointing to a 
legal technicality. Ask him how it is that he says "It is incorrect to say that 
Indira Gandhi violated the constitution." So go for this point. He will either 
respond well or fall on his face. This is another way to approach things. Its 
as 
simple as that. And we must not forget the Supreme Court and what it did in 
upholding the Emergency and allowing for the layering, infusion and application 
of 
draconian powers.

It is true in all probability that Indira Gandhi was not being pressured by the 
West 
to relinquish power. The scholars would have been on this by now if she was 
being--but we shall see. But she did it for her own political reasons--in my 
opinion 
they (as in she--Congress) were willing to sit it out. People got to ridicule / 
many 
still scoff, but in the end does it matter to the Congress. Indian politicians 
do 
not like to be ridiculed but are also learning to work with that figurative 
reality. 
But at that point, it was a good way out for them. Give these things a thought. 
This 
is high strategy that we only occasionally see these days. I do not respect it 
at 
all, but who am I to say that. This does not absolve her at all in my reading.

An analogy with business, no matter which political party the MEA bureaucracy 
at 
South Block is doing rather well and making sure that India will keep shining 
as 
they see fit. And at the end of the day, things are run by a whole other bunch 
of 
ghosts.

venantius



From: Naguesh Bhatcar

Marshall,
How can you absolve Indira Gandhi?Whatever your take on this, ultimately it was 
Indira Gandhi the Prime Minister, who was responsiblefor whatever that took 
place 
during the emergency --sterilisations or whatever else, that werethe excesses 
of the 
emergency era. If you now want to say that only Sanjay Gandhi was the 
troublemaker,he was then being hailed as the hero and Indira Gandhi never 
pulled him 
up. 


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