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Apartment for sale in Campal/Miramar area, Panaji, Goa. Spacious 3 bedroom flat (3BHK)available for sale in upscale area near Miramar beach Contact: goaengineer...@aol.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 19:34:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Mervyn Lobo <mervynal...@yahoo.ca> I like your input because it has the numbers that back up the facts. Mario responds: The REAL facts are that there is a vast difference between the 47 million people who don't have health insurance at any given point in time and the 15 million or so who cannot get insurance because of no fault of their own. These are the Americans who are hard core uninsurables who need help and should get it as was outlined in: http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-August/181657.html Mervyn wrote: Lastly, US residents who do not have medical insurance are in that situation because they CANNOT obtain the insurance. In contrast, every person in Ontario gets free health coverage when they arrive. This is regardless of whether they have contributed to the tax system or not. Mario responds: Here is what these residents in Ontario get, for free: http://www.news-medical.net/news/2005/10/24/13988.aspx Here is what is REALLY happening across Canada: http://www.google.com/hostednews/canadianpress/article/ALeqM5jbjzPEY0Y3bvRD335rGu_Z3KXoQw This is what Dr. Ann Doig, the incoming president of the Canadian Medical Association, had to say, "We all agree that the system is imploding, we all agree that things are more precarious than perhaps Canadians realize," The Goan Canadians who have posted gushing/angry/defensive posts recently about the Canadian health care system sound like the Canadians Dr. Doig is referring to when she says, "...things are more precarious than perhaps Canadians realize." Goanetters should remember these reports when they see suggestions that the American system, which has enough problems of its own, albeit solvable problems of insurance coverage for 5% of its citizens, needs to copy the struggling Canadian system where things are "precarious". While the Canadian government-run system obviously helps many people much of the time, especially when they are well, if they get a serious illness needing sophisticated tests and procedures they end up on waiting lists controlled by government bureaucrats because their system does not have adequate capabilities to treat everyone immediately. These inadequate capabilities is one major reason why their system costs less. In return for the lower cost they get rationed care. On the other hand, every resident in the expensive US system has access to emergency medical treatments at no cost, WITH NO WAITING LISTS, even if they cannot afford to pay or have no health insurance. However a better solution must be worked out for the 15 million or so uninsurables. Helping those who cannot help themselves is a legitimate and good use of the fruits of capitalism and the free market system. My preference would be for a free market private industry solution with tax incentives to handle the additional financial risk but avoid the inefficiencies inherent in any government run system.
