[1] re: Is it OK (by the Church) to kill the BORN by way of the Death Penalty or by waging unprovoked wars?
Mario responded : to compare the Death Penalty with abortions is a specious red herring. ...... The legal theory is to protect the lives of others and to deter others from committing similar crimes. COMMENT: Nonsense. The killing of the born is no different from the killing of the unborn except in one facet. (In the US), the unborn has NO legal rights. == [2] re: Is it OK to bomb innocent civilians? Has the Church (except Pope John Paul II) raised any voice against this? Mario responded: No, it is not OK to deliberately target innocent civilians. COMMENT: So did the Church publicly deny Communion to those who carried out the bombing of innocent civilians AND those who publicly supported the people who organised the bombing of innocent civilians? I expect individuals like Mario to come up and say that (a) It was OK to bomb and kill millions of innocent Hiroshimians and Nagasakis - because it saved others (b) It was OK to bomb innocent civilians in Iraq - because Sadman would have killed them anyway. etc etc etc nonsense. The Church is either pro-Life or it is not. Full Stop. == [3] re: Has the Church publicly denied communion to those in the Church hierarchy who have abused and condoned abuse of innocent children? Mario responded: The Church has no grounds for denying communion to anyone who has shown remorse and repented for their sins, however heinous. COMMENT: Some of these criminal abusers molested for years. Did the Church not know? Did some bishop make a public statement that communion would be denied to abusers? Were some of these chaps not merely transferred to another parish? What nonsense is this? In closing, I will say this: I am a Roman Catholic and very happy to be one. These US Catholic bishops who point fingers at others without first having cleaned up their own house ....disgust me. It has not been an uncommon experience for me to hear a homily (sermao) openly advocating parishioners to vote against a Dem candidate because of his support for a woman's right to determine whether she will continue her pregnancy. This is more than religious double-standard. This is interference in the affairs of the State. I suggest that there is a special reason why the Church and State are separated. The Church must stay out of such blatant involvement in partisan politics. jc For further reading ....the on-going spillage of beans presently underway in the UK 1: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/iraq-the-uwaru-was-illegal-1830508.html 2: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1231746/Secret-letter-reveal-new-Blair-war-lies.html