Message: 3 Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 22:08:07 -0800 (PST) From: Mario Goveia <mgov...@sbcglobal.net> To: goanet@lists.goanet.org Subject: Re: [Goanet] Citizenship issue... Message-ID: <591567.27860...@web80506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 13:21:42 +0530 From: Tony de Sa <tonyde...@gmail.com> This is typically the sarsaparilla that Gouveia specializes in. So parents, husbands, wives, relations who invest money or goods or services for their children/ spouses/ relations have half brains by the reckoning of the 'economist' from Jamshedpur's Tata Industries? Philanthropists who invest millions by this reasoning must be having atomic brains. Mario responds: We can see that Tony De Sa cannot even spell my name correctly. As the lone voice of reason, truth and peace, I am forced again to explain what I wrote to show that Tony is having a hard time following the conversation:-)) Tony previously wrote, "I am no economist I confess, but I suspect that this money was primarily sent to alleviate the lot of their families and not specifically to improve the economy of the State." Here is what I wrote in response to Tony's bizarre notion that people invest their money "specifically to improve the economy of the State": http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2010-January/188852.html Quote: No one with more than half a brain works hard and invests money primarily for someone else's benefit. When people help themselves economically, they automatically help others around them when the money is spent on purchases and starts circulating in the economy. Unquote. Obviously when parents, husbands, wives, relations who invest money or goods or services for their children/ spouses/ relations they are investing primarily for the benefit of their own family and "not specifically to improve the economy of the State", as Tony wants NRGs to do. Only those with half a brain would invest "specifically to improve the economy of the State." I wonder if Tony can grasp the difference. I wonder who he is talking about from Jamshedpur's Tata Industries. Must be like that Goan from Toledo. It's those pesky facts again that Tony has a problem with. Tony wrote: Philanthropists who invest millions by this reasoning must be having atomic brains. Mario responds: Once again I will be glad to teach Tony how this works:-)) Most American philanthropists like Bill Gates and Warren Buffet were not born wealthy, i.e they did not have enough money to be "philanthropists". They later became wildly successful in their businesses, investing for themselves, not for others. Once they had more money than they knew what to do with, they started giving money away to help others, i.e. became philanthropists. They never invested "for others" because not too long ago, they had no idea they would have so much money even for themselves. Tony wrote: Bull sh1t Kitem re mario? Bezo fry zala, kitem? Mario observes: I think this gives us all an insight into the kind of half-baked thinking we are dealing with here who joined Samir in launching a furious assault not on the corruption that is responsible for the real mess in Goa but on NRGs trying to help. ======= As usual Mario has caught the bull by its tail and has got you know what on his hands. When you NRG guys talk about the "real mess in Goa" you are talking in respect to what frame of reference? USA? Canada? Zimbabwe? Bangladesh? I live in Goa 24x7 and I don't find the "real mess in Goa" as bad as it is made out to be. The way Mario and his cohorts are going on, one would think doomsday is like one hour away. There are problems, yes. Look at the problems in the Indian context. Corruption? Yes there is corruption. But by spouting advice on an internet forum are you going to change the situation? Garbage, yes garbage is a problem. It is not like nothing is being done about it. NRGs wanna help? Yes, come down and wield a bloomin shovel or a bull dozer or a JCB but don't just tell me to take a shovel and get rid of it. Illegal mining? NRGs don't tell us that we should stop illegal mining. Just do like RG Cheryl and do something concrete. Hill cutting? Join the pickets. I could go on and on. Unfortunately, some guys just can't get it in their thick heads that we don't want your "we-are-in-foren-so-we-know-everything"advice. We want your example. As I said earlier and am repeating my self for the nth time, taking this argument into bylanes and lanes and circles does nothing. FACTA NON VERBA. -- Tony de Sa tonyd...@gmail.com M : +91 9975 162 897 Ph. : +91 832 2470 148 ^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v
