Dear Mr. Barve,

You are obviously discussing the issue from ill-informed premises.
None (repeat, NONE) of the Goan names mentioned in any of my
four articles on the subject are of any Goan-origin defence officers
in India's defence services who served the Portuguese administration
prior to 1961 -- and then were absorbed in Indian services, as you
seem to suggest. NONE of the names in the next two articles to follow
will similarly be of Goans who served the Portuguese (though it wasn't
a crime to serve in the colonial administration!) ALL names are of
those brave officer rank men who served India, or call her Bharat or
call her Hindustan. Whatever your personal choice.

Instead of merely trying to search for cracks in what I wrote (and I can
assure you I have taken maximum possible care to avoid errors), why
don't you contribute positively -- you may know of some Goan names
that I have missed so far. Tell me about them.

But do remember that in the defence services, every officer regards
himself/herself as Indian first, then Goan/Bengali/Punjabi/etc., then maybe
Hindu/Muslim/Christian/Sikh/Parsi/etc. -- and last perhaps as a veg. or
non-veg by diet and other predilections. Open your mindset with a
wide-angle lens and please talk further.

Thanks and regards, v


----- Original Message ----- From: "SHRIKANT BARVE" <shri8...@yahoo.com>
To: <goa...@goanet.org>; "goanet" <goanet@lists.goanet.org>
Cc: "Valmiki Faleiro" <valmi...@gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 10:35 PM
Subject: Re: [Goanet] Of Portuguese Crosses,Indian Swords & Goans.: 
HERALD(Goa), May 16, 2010


I may be totally wrong ...however there is every possibility when exceptional 
figure are presented.
I feel that All the Goan officers serving for Portuguese may have joined the Indian Defense service after liberation (just like civil servant).

Shrikant Vinayak Barve



--- On Sun, 16/5/10, Valmiki Faleiro <valmi...@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Valmiki Faleiro <valmi...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Of Portuguese Crosses, Indian Swords & Goans.: HERALD(Goa), May 
16, 2010
To: "SHRIKANT BARVE" <shri8...@yahoo.com>
Date: Sunday, 16 May, 2010, 8:35 PM
Dear Mr. Barve,

Will you kindly tell me who has given this "interesting
news"
-- and "again and again" -- before? I must be foolish to
think I was
attempting something like this for the first time...

Will you kindly also disclose the rank/name of all other
Goans
(who you obviously imply I left out -- deliberately or
otherwise) who
served India as commissioned/ranked defence officers??

Will you also come to terms with the fact that I was on
Indian
defence officers of Goan origin, who are NOT recruited by
way of
"recruitment drive in Goa" -- but by an all-India
competitive entrance
exam for the NDA/IMA/etc?

And finally, will you stop thinking that I am some walking
encyclopaedia on defence officers of Goan origin? If you
need to
know the date of commissioning of any officer, you can
jolly well
search the official defence website www.bharatrakshak.com

Or, if the shoe pinches, face facts, and keep your trap
shut.

Rgds, v


----- Original Message ----- From: "SHRIKANT BARVE" <shri8...@yahoo.com>
To: <goa...@goanet.org>;
"goanet" <goanet@lists.goanet.org>
Cc: <valmi...@gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 3:07 PM
Subject: Of Portuguese Crosses, Indian Swords & Goans.:
HERALD(Goa), May 16, 2010


"My far-from-complete lists of Goan commissioned officers
in India's armed forces feature 286 names - Army 144, Navy
36 and IAF 106. Of the 286 Goans who helped defend the
nation's borders and honour, 263 (or 92%) are the MGP's
"unpatriotic, anti-national" Goan Catholics, who comprise
30% of the population. 65% of Goa's Hindu population, in
all, accounts for 23 defence officers."

This is an interesting news to be told again and again.

In last few Defence recruitment drive in Goa passing
percentage is single digit.

I am also interested 'and if author could provide us'
the date of joining of these 286 Goan commissioned officers
in India's armed forces feature.

Shrikant Vinayak Barve








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