Agreed Arwin, our identity is very important to us, but each and every Goan must also understand that . When it comes to selling their property it is not the money factor which should be the main attraction. "Dont sell your soul to the devil for money". For every proud Goan, this beautiful state is our heart and soul. No matter in which part of the world we are "You can take a Goan out of Goa, but you cannot take Goa out of him". I have a lot of close non-Goan Indian friends. All are very interested in buying/owning property in Goa but the main reason is only "Exploitation". Believe me, these are sharks. They have no feeling for our part of our land, our culture or our identity. Another reason why They love Goa is because (thanks to the powers that be) it is totally indisciplined. They feel you can do what you like and get away with it. Where can you find a place which is so beautiful and so indisciplined?. Bernice Pereira
--- On Mon, 8/11/10, goanet-requ...@lists.goanet.org <goanet-requ...@lists.goanet.org> wrote: From: goanet-requ...@lists.goanet.org <goanet-requ...@lists.goanet.org> Subject: Goanet Digest, Vol 5, Issue 1215 To: goanet@lists.goanet.org Date: Monday, 8 November, 2010, 3:44 AM Send Goanet mailing list submissions to goanet@lists.goanet.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to goanet-requ...@lists.goanet.org You can reach the person managing the list at goanet-ow...@lists.goanet.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Goanet digest..." _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ _/ _/ tambdimati: the Goa review is a community blog of original _/ art, writing, music, news and commentary from and about the _/ smallest state in the subcontinent. check out the newest _/ member of the Goanet family daily at _/ http://www.tambdimati.com. _/ _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ Today's Topics: 1. Re: Request to mailing list Goanet rejected (Tony de Sa) 2. Re: Why double standards? (J. Colaco < jc>) 3. Sea cows, buffaloes enliven folklore (Goanet News Service) 4. Re: Rahul Gandi says there are TWO hindustans! (Gabe Menezes) 5. Goa's Inquisition (George Pinto) 6. Goanet Intro. #5 - Arwin Mesquita (Tony de Sa) 7. Pics and Video ? VANXIM protest Meet- Villain no 1 is our ?Bism?, ?Casino mhonche Chellyeponnam? etc (JoeGoaUk) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2010 22:28:09 +0530 From: Tony de Sa <tonyde...@gmail.com> To: bo...@goanet.org, "Goa's Premiere Mailing List, Estd 1994" <goanet@lists.goanet.org> Subject: Re: [Goanet] Request to mailing list Goanet rejected Message-ID: <aanlktinegbdj3lbjnpiumv5wugxcpm3-3x7zqb0um...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Another Saturday, a stormy Saturday in Goa with squally winds accompanied by rains in the afternoon in Goa. Time for Goanet Intros once again. Today, it is my pleasure to introduce a prolific blogger and poster, not only on Goanet but also in most of Goa's dailies, Mr. Arwin Mesquita. Arwin who hails from Colva in Goa is a Senior Brand Manager at Nautica Middle East and is resident in Abu Dhabi, UAE. Arwin is professionally well qualified with an MBA under his belt. An outgoing personality, naturally one finds him socializing when he finds time away from blogging and posting on the net and bombarding Goa's dailies about his concerns for Goa. He has addressed his social concerns for Goa by giving two presentations on (the unique) Goan Identity in the UAE specifically in Abu Dhabi and Dubai. Perhaps his connection with the Jaycee movement prodded him to go this route. So much is he concerned about the Goan Identity that he has created a Facebook group ( http://www.facebook.com/Goan_Identity)<http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#%21/search.php?q=GOAN%20IDENTITY%20MOVEMENT.&init=quick&tas=0.7273019188683432> ) (Please do visit the site and leave a comment) While in the Gulf, Arwin has not forgotten his village and found time for his village club when he was in Kuwait - the Colva United Centre where he has held office as treasurer. His hobbies also include reading and walking and he is deeply interested in retail, world affairs, business. Arwin, a day has only 24 hours or 86, 400 seconds. Are there enough of them to cover all this activities, besides eat, sleep and relax? You really are something to cram all these activities in a day! A widely traveled man of the world, Arwin has been a globe trotter literally. He has traveled to the US, UK, France, Italy, Greece, Cyprus, Austria, Czechoslovakia, Egypt, Syria, Kuwait, Bahrain, Saudi Arabia, Oman, Qatar, He has done his schooling up to the Higher Secondary stage in Kuwait. His extensive travel to the Gulf countries has given him a good grasp of the Middle East. When I asked Arwin which country he liked the best, he mentioned Austria and Czechoslovakia which he singled out for their uniqueness. Surprising? Not at all, given Arwin's fixation with Uniqueness of Identity. And before I wind up giving what Arwin thinks is his best post to Goanet, here is a request to the people I have written to asking you to send in your self introduction. Please do cooperate with us to introduce you so that your personality stands out in your letters and the readers appreciate you and your communications better! So here goes with Arwin's best post. *Subject: Respect Our Right to Identity.* * * Goans are increasingly opposing Land Sales to Non-Goans. I request Non-Goans to appreciate our basis. Yes, Goans can buy land in many Indian states/Western countries. But let's look at this in a bigger perspective; *this time globally*; I'll take the UK example, just to drive my point. I read an impressive column recently in the UAE media by a UK government minister. It was ref. the new UK immigration laws; highlight was while the UK has to be fair to other countries, at the same time it needed them, particularly India in the letter, to respect each nations right to protect its genuine interests. We appreciate why the UK/Western Countries i.e. MainGlobalisation/Democratic Free World drivers enact controls against non-locals. In UK, non-locals can buy land, but immigration controls ensure that the UK is not open to all. Those questioning my views from UAE, please note that although locals here are in minority there are safeguards e.g. No Expatriate Political Rights, No Citizenship, Restrictive Real Estate Buying laws etc. to ensure that the UAE remains with its people. Each community has limits to which non-locals can buy land/emigrate (with political rights). Goa has way crossed this limit; beyond which we have to put safeguards; the current rate will make Goans irrelevant & no community can accept the same for themselves. I'd argue today that Goans are more tolerant than most other communities. The REAL ISSUE is that GOA HAS NO CONTROLS ON REAL ESTATE PURCHASES/IMMIGRATION (mostly non local Indians). For those quoting the constitution (A) Goa had no influence to framing of the constitution i.e. India acquisition of Goa much later in 1961 (B) Some states have special provisions; Goa is also an exception; just because we * "failed"* to get safeguards in 1961, does not right the wrong (C) The Constitution is not cast in stone and for just basis, should be modified to protect the people; from which a democratic constitution should have been driven; not vice-versa!! I accept criticism that Goans are to be blamed significantly for the issue because of our actions/in-actions; but also issues of Land Sales to Non-Goans & Uncontrolled Migration are significant and need to be addressed urgently. Goans should support your right to your identity/interests, likewise please respect our right to the same. *Arwin Mesquita, Abu Dhabi.* Tony de Sa. tonydesa at gmail dot com ^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2010 12:36:29 -0500 From: "J. Colaco < jc>" <cola...@gmail.com> To: "Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!" <goanet@lists.goanet.org> Subject: Re: [Goanet] Why double standards? Message-ID: <aanlktimcg23heacjyd96muheypj27tfibmrd2rgmg...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Frederick Noronha wrote: Caught you JC, your bias shows! (As does mine!); Those for whom it is 2010 are in the 21st century of the Common Era. Jewish people are in the year 5771 - Muslims are in their 15th century. .....Bengali calendar, the Chinese (Year of the Tiger), the Indian calendar, the Tamil calendar .. the Aztec, Positivist, Soviet or Buddhist? ------- jc's response on this quiet and cool Sunday with Hurricane Tomas having passed to the S and E of us without troubling us. Hon. and Very Learned Frederick Noronha Sirjee, What else can I add except that you are the best, smartest, alertest, most respected person I know. That having been noted, my answer to your question remains the same. FAITH is indeed the basis of my belief. good wishes ....and do remember, "Catching (or Caughting - as some might say) me is NO great achievement especially for anybody with a name/surname which starts with an "F" jc === [1] < jc> wrote: We are, I believe, in the 21st century. [2] <FN> asked: Holy crow! What is the basis for your belief ? jc's answer: Faith (:-) ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sun, 07 Nov 2010 12:54:34 -0500 From: Goanet News Service <n...@goanet.org> To: goa...@goanet.org Subject: [Goanet] Sea cows, buffaloes enliven folklore Message-ID: <4cd6e7da.1090...@goanet.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Sea cows, buffaloes enliven folklore Paul Fernandes, TNN, Nov 7, 2010, 03.51am IST PANAJI: Endangered species of sea cows or dugongs (Dugong dugon) are seen only in a few places in Indian waters, but fishermen and coastal folk in Goa have spun interesting lore around porpoises and dolphins, mistaking them for dugongs. Zoologically called Sirenoid, the playful 'mermaids' are on the verge of extinction as they are extensively slaughtered for their meat. Incidentally, Dugong meat is considered a delicacy and is believed to have curative properties. With dugong conservation in mind, the union ministry of environment and forests (MoEF) recently constituted a task force to draw up a plan for their protection. After all, only a few dugongs are seen today, that too only in Palk Bay, Gulf of Mannar and Andaman and Nicobar Islands. Yet, some Goan villagers have believed for decades that the sea cows seen in coastal waters are gade redde (sea buffaloes). Simon Pereira, a trawler owner, says that the lack of knowledge about the species of mammals off the Goan coast is the main problem. "All types of dolphins are generalized into one category - gade redde," he admits. Known for their playful ways, gade redde hit the surface every now and then and gently roll back into the water. "It is a delight to watch them as they surf and roll back into the waters without showing much of their huge frame," says Edwin Carvalho, a trawler owner. But Manoj Borkar, a marine zoologist says gade redde could only be porpoise being mistaken for sea cows. "Sea cows are presumed to be gade redde because the porpoise' silhouette resembles that of a dugong. They rise and fall back into the water so fast that one can hardly observe them," he says. There is no authentic report on the range of sea cows seen off the state's coastline. "So what we have in fact is a finless porpoise - not a sea cow," Borkar stresses. Agrees additional principal chief conservator of forests, Shashi Kumar, "No sightings of dugongs have been reported off the Goan coast." A small dugong population exists in the Andaman and Nicobar Islands. "There is even a creek in Andaman known as Dugong creek," says Kumar. But Goa's forest department is willing to lend support to the MoEF plan of developing a national conservation strategy. "We will extend cooperation in drawing an action plan," Kumar says. The nine-member panel is expected to submit a report in six months, recommending an appropriate methodology and institutional framework for monitoring sea cows' status and recovering their habitats in India, according to the ministry's statement. While the dugongs' habitats are threatened by pollution, gade redde near Goa's coast also face similar problems. "They (gade redde) were being slaughtered for meat until five or six yeas ago in Vasco. The gutters in the fish market were flooded with their thick red blood," Borkar says. A fisherman admits that more than a decade ago gade redde were hunted by a few fishermen as their meat, thick and hard, was sought after by some consumers. "However, now we have not seen them ever being brought to shore," he says. The traditional and mechanized fishermen are aware about the government's conservation rules, Carvalho says. "If we see them in our nets, we immediately release them and have instructed our fishermen to do likewise," Carvalho, a member of the Goa Fishing Boats Owners' Association, says. Pereira says his trawler crew saw two young gades with milk oozing from their mouths about six years ago. "Our crew released them realizing they were juveniles," he says. A forest official opines that it would be advisable to sensitize the general public about the importance of marine wildlife before penalizing offenders. "We have asked the Wildlife Crime Control Bureau, western region, whose office is based at Mumbai, to educate field-level staff and fishermen communities on this matter," the source said. Pereira agrees that information about marine mammals has to be disseminated among people in order to create more awareness. "All dolphins and porpoise are called gade redde and people don't have any knowledge about the species," he says. Borkar admits that there is a huge lacuna in the understanding of marine mammals in this part of the world. "We know little in terms of their diversity, their behaviour or even existing species," he says. As a member of the Goa State Wildlife Advisory Board, he has urged the government to constitute a cell for monitoring marine-mammal stranding and sightings especially in south Goa. "Sea cows, porpoises and dolphins, especially the latter two, look alike but are different species, though they are misconstrued as one," Borkar said. Explaining further, he said they are different in terms of body colour, shape, fins, snout, dentition, and even behaviour. Carvalho says gade redde (porpoise) may have got their nomenclature due to their striking dark brown coat. "Their pitch dark hide like buffaloes may have earned them that name," he says. In local language, a gado is one who is sluggish in behaviour. In comparison, dolphins are grey skinned and quicker. "Gade (porpoise) cannot match the dolphins for speed," says Carvalho. "They (dolphins) seem to be gregarious, surfing near the boat and reappearing 50 m away within seconds. They also move towards the shore in twos and threes," he adds. But Borkar points out that porpoise are less gregarious. "This is an indication of the confusion among the fishermen and others," he says. Baban Ingole, National Institute of Oceanography (NIO) fisheries scientist says there is a lack of focused research about the status of endangered marine mammals. "Scientific opinion is more credible and people can be made aware of exciting marine life through research findings," he says. http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/Sea-cows-buffaloes-enliven-folklore/articleshow/6881493.cms#ixzz14cWNxVgZ ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2010 19:49:58 +0000 From: Gabe Menezes <gabe.mene...@gmail.com> To: "Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!" <goanet@lists.goanet.org> Subject: Re: [Goanet] Rahul Gandi says there are TWO hindustans! Message-ID: <aanlktimuzzoamzibs8os0mpc48_e4cde+ntbaq27v...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On 6 November 2010 11:03, Gabe Menezes <gabe.mene...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On 6 November 2010 02:00, U. G. Barad <dr.udayba...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Gabe wrote: The leader of your Country is a white woman, so why are you >> badgering about 'white women'? >> >> >> >> My response: >> >> >> >> I'm not surprised about your stupid messages/responses in Goanet about >> India >> - for you have admitted that India is not "your country". If that is so, >> than you are spending your time writing about Goa and India on Goanet? >> Instead spend your time showering your beloved white women and improvising >> English grammar. >> >> >> >> Indians and Goans are capable of handling their own issues. If you are >> still >> interested in Rahul Gandi, read my next message which is sent to Goanet >> today. >> >> >> >> Best regards, >> >> >> >> U. G. Barad >> >> >> RESPONSE: You are a incorrigible; you can take the Goan out of Goa but you > cannot take Goa out of the Goan. > > Your last sentence confirms your distorted brain i.e. Indians and Goans are > capable of handling their own issues - then why are you sucking up to the > Belgian? > > Do you know what you are writing half of the time? Your next project would > be to get all Churches in Goa checked out to see if they are built on Hindu > Temples and to reclaim them? > > Physician heal thyself. > -- > DEV BOREM KORUM > > Gabe Menezes. > ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2010 11:57:19 -0800 (PST) From: George Pinto <georgejpi...@yahoo.com> To: Goanet <goa...@goanet.org> Subject: [Goanet] Goa's Inquisition Message-ID: <115204.94370...@web110309.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Gilbert is wrong for the first time. Today he wants to know the names of 2-3 churches built on Hindu temples in Tiswadi falling for the fake line that real historians have been peddling. Gilbert, who should be given the Nobel prize for History, assumes some Goan Churches were built on temples. As we have come to learn Gilbert is infallible, more infallible than the Pope since the Pope claims to be infallible when he speaks ex cathedra (on matters of faith). Gilbert on the other hand, speaks without error on all subjects, especially those featured on the Huffington Post website. But today, Gilbert has made an error. As Gilbert is well aware: 1. There was no Goan inquisition. Something happened in Bihar between atheists and Muslims involving Tamilians and Martians and this has been falsely attributed to the Goan inquisition. 2. How can Catholics have been involved with the inquisition when good Catholics (like Gilbert) do no wrong? Isn't the Bible wrong when it says Catholics commit sins? The inquisition would involve sins. Ergo, no Catholics involved. 3. As everyone knows, Goan churches sprouted from hybrid seeds planted in the ground by missionaries. When the rice harvest was over, there was nothing to plant in the ground for some months so these special hybrid seeds were planted. Viola! a few months later churches grew everywhere. In fact if you go close enough to a Goan church you can smell the land. There is no scent of a Hindu temple. Proof once again that no church was built on Hindu temples. Gilbert, you are forgiven this one error in your lifetime. No apology required. George ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Sun, 07 Nov 2010 15:36:16 -0500 From: Tony de Sa <tonyde...@gmail.com> To: goa...@goanet.org Subject: [Goanet] Goanet Intro. #5 - Arwin Mesquita Message-ID: <4cd70dc0.7080...@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Another Saturday, a stormy Saturday in Goa with squally winds accompanied by rains in the afternoon in Goa. Time for Goanet Intros once again. Today, it is my pleasure to introduce a prolific blogger and poster, not only on Goanet but also in most of Goa's dailies, Mr. Arwin Mesquita. Arwin who hails from Colva in Goa is a Senior Brand Manager at Nautica Middle East and is resident in Abu Dhabi, UAE. Arwin is professionally well qualified with an MBA under his belt. An outgoing personality, naturally one finds him socializing when he finds time away from blogging and posting on the net and bombarding Goa's dailies about his concerns for Goa. He has addressed his social concerns for Goa by giving two presentations on (the unique) Goan Identity in the UAE specifically in Abu Dhabi and Dubai. Perhaps his connection with the Jaycee movement prodded him to go this route. So much is he concerned about the Goan Identity that he has created a Facebook group ( http://www.facebook.com/Goan_Identity)<http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#%21/search.php?q=GOAN%20IDENTITY%20MOVEMENT.&init=quick&tas=0.7273019188683432> ) (Please do visit the site and leave a comment) While in the Gulf, Arwin has not forgotten his village and found time for his village club when he was in Kuwait - the Colva United Centre where he has held office as treasurer. His hobbies also include reading and walking and he is deeply interested in retail, world affairs, business. Arwin, a day has only 24 hours or 86, 400 seconds. Are there enough of them to cover all this activities, besides eat, sleep and relax? You really are something to cram all these activities in a day! A widely traveled man of the world, Arwin has been a globe trotter literally. He has traveled to the US, UK, France, Italy, Greece, Cyprus, Austria, Czechoslovakia, Egypt, Syria, Kuwait, Bahrain, Saudi Arabia, Oman, Qatar, He has done his schooling up to the Higher Secondary stage in Kuwait. His extensive travel to the Gulf countries has given him a good grasp of the Middle East. When I asked Arwin which country he liked the best, he mentioned Austria and Czechoslovakia which he singled out for their uniqueness. Surprising? Not at all, given Arwin's fixation with Uniqueness of Identity. And before I wind up giving what Arwin thinks is his best post to Goanet, here is a request to the people I have written to asking you to send in your self introduction. Please do cooperate with us to introduce you so that your personality stands out in your letters and the readers appreciate you and your communications better! So here goes with Arwin's best post. *Subject: Respect Our Right to Identity.* * * Goans are increasingly opposing Land Sales to Non-Goans. I request Non-Goans to appreciate our basis. Yes, Goans can buy land in many Indian states/Western countries. But let's look at this in a bigger perspective; *this time globally*; I'll take the UK example, just to drive my point. I read an impressive column recently in the UAE media by a UK government minister. It was ref. the new UK immigration laws; highlight was while the UK has to be fair to other countries, at the same time it needed them, particularly India in the letter, to respect each nations right to protect its genuine interests. We appreciate why the UK/Western Countries i.e.Main Globalisation/Democratic Free World drivers enact controls against non-locals. In UK, non-locals can buy land, but immigration controls ensure that the UK is not open to all. Those questioning my views from UAE, please note that although locals here are in minority there are safeguards e.g. No Expatriate Political Rights, No Citizenship, Restrictive Real Estate Buying laws etc. to ensure that the UAE remains with its people. Each community has limits to which non-locals can buy land/emigrate (with political rights). Goa has way crossed this limit; beyond which we have to put safeguards; the current rate will make Goans irrelevant & no community can accept the same for themselves. I'd argue today that Goans are more tolerant than most other communities. The REAL ISSUE is that GOA HAS NO CONTROLS ON REAL ESTATE PURCHASES/IMMIGRATION (mostly non local Indians). For those quoting the constitution (A) Goa had no influence to framing of the constitution i.e. India acquisition of Goa much later in 1961 (B) Some states have special provisions; Goa is also an exception; just because we *"failed"* to get safeguards in 1961, does not right the wrong (C) The Constitution is not cast in stone and for just basis, should be modified to protect the people; from which a democratic constitution should have been driven; not vice-versa!! I accept criticism that Goans are to be blamed significantly for the issue because of our actions/in-actions; but also issues of Land Sales to Non-Goans & Uncontrolled Migration are significant and need to be addressed urgently. Goans should support your right to your identity/interests, likewise please respect our right to the same. *Arwin Mesquita, Abu Dhabi.* Tony de Sa. tonyd...@gmail.com ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2010 21:55:16 +0000 (GMT) From: JoeGoaUk <joego...@yahoo.co.uk> To: goa...@goanet.org Subject: [Goanet] Pics and Video ? VANXIM protest Meet- Villain no 1 is our ?Bism?, ?Casino mhonche Chellyeponnam? etc Message-ID: <611166.30222...@web25907.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 :Pics and Video ? VANXIM protest Meet ?Villain no 1 is our ?Bism?,? ?Casino mhonche Chellyeponnam? etc ? Ille de Capao ? ?The lady (I could not gt her name) probably from Vanxim in her Speech disclosed the names of some of the secret agents of Mahendra Gaunekar viz Philip D?Melo, Manuel Furtado (Panch Member) who said Vanxim needed star hotel/tourist spot Narayan Bhosle, who lives at other place. Bruno Ferrao who wrote on Vauraddeamcho Ixtt Saying Vanxim is of no use ?onupyogi? ? Fr. Bimark said by selling the land, the church leader done a great injustices to humanity. Watch video He also said many priests back him up in his battle But none? comes infront to talk in the meeting like this.. He said there is only one religion ?the Earth? ? Watch video ?When our fathers or the religious? leaders? go wrong, we should tell them about their wrongs and that religion is? the right religion and??the? right approach? -? watch video Talking about casinos, he said ?Casino mhonghe Chellyeponnam? (Casino means prostitution). ? Seby or Sebastian Rodrigues (GOAMAP)? said during the first meeting here at Vanxim he spoke about the Heroes but now he would ?talk about the villains.? Villain No. 1 he said ?Archbishop of Goa, Filip Neri Ferrao ? Watch Video Church accused Vanxim people? being encroachers but he said the church itself encroached upon Vanxim He further explained that Portuguese made? Vanxim as Santa Monica and when they left it was handed over to Santa Monica. Which means the church then become Landlord and the islanders become their tenants? and hence encroachers ? Adv. Yatish Naik said fighting for Goan Indentify is the third major battle. Previous two being Opinion Poll and and the fight for Mother Tongue Konkani Watch video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqpJq0YXMOM Some pics The Church fa?ade The church of Jesus Christ (1956) C95 http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk31/5155305916/sizes/l/ ? a beautiful sunset from a small boat? jetty infront of the church http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk31/5155301870/sizes/l/ ? the above jetty ? abandoned or neglected? Railing pipes are corroded and are broken http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk31/5155302966/sizes/l/ ? Some houses on the river bank, close to the church (right) Behind cemetery http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk31/5154696639/sizes/l/ the meet with church view http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk31/5155305346/sizes/l/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk31/5155306720/sizes/l/ ? to the left of the church main raod between the houses, where bikes are seen http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk31/5154698581/ ? the people who occupied the chairs and some on the fence seen? in the background http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk31/5154702455/sizes/l/ ? the speakers Sorry, I could get her name http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk31/5154700493/ (Margarida Silveira??) ? ? Fr. Bismark Dias http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk31/5154699869/ ? Seby / Sebastian Rodrigues http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk31/5154701273/ ? Adv. Yatish Naik http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk31/5154701775/ ? Note: the background of the most speakers is the main altar of the church This one http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk19/3518285380/sizes/l/ ? A cross in the river, seen while crossing the river http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk31/5154799067/ ? The cross and the Divar side ferry jetty http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk31/5154799553/ with ferryboat at Divar side jetty opp. Divaaya Resort http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk31/5154800071/ ? The main to Ferry and Divaaya Resort http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk31/5154801543/sizes/l/ ? 30 minute wait for ferry at? Divar Sao Pedro Jetty Could not board the first ferry as it was full up http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk31/5154801727/sizes/l/ ? the video - protest meet http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqpJq0YXMOM Extra: The meet was to start at 4pm but started? around 5pm Not that many people could be seen. I would put it around 125 of which only around 50? occupied the? chairs. It appears that not all people from Vanxim attended the meet particularly the nearby Hindu community. Our short visit to the right of the church, towards river bank. - we saw some people in their houses.? For a meet like this. Every one should have attended the meet, particularly all Vanxin islanders. ? One speaker said, and said it? twice that he does not know the Vanxim scandal in details? People who don?t know the problem or people who don?t know what they are talking, should not be allowed to speak? at all. ? More Vanxim pics http://www.flickr.com/search/?w=all&q=vanxim+joegoauk&m=text ? Feat of Christ at Vanxim May 2009? -Video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SfIlF6E1o4 ? Note: There are no deliberate attempts? made in the reporting to spark ?any sort of controversy.? What you read here is what I saw or ?what I felt ? some of it you see in the video anyway. I must admit I share the ideology of Fr. Bismark. We left home at 3.30 and arrived Vanxim at 4.45 Two ferry to take and we were in the Q. Back at Panjim 7pm, we had a quick dinner at Regos. Back home at 8.30pm? and from 8.45pm to 2.45am I was on this case Pics/Video/Report. ? The biryani we had at Rego?s (as if you didn?t believe me ) http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoaukfishcurryrice2/5155223975/ ? thank you and good night. joego...@yahoo.co.uk for Goa & NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa In Goa, Dial? 1 0 8 For Hospital, Police, Fire etc End of Goanet Digest, Vol 5, Issue 1215 *************************************** _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ _/ _/ tambdimati: the Goa review is a community blog of original _/ art, writing, music, news and commentary from and about the _/ smallest state in the subcontinent. check out the newest _/ member of the Goanet family daily at _/ http://www.tambdimati.com. _/ _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/