On Indian /Portuguese Citizenship CM’s statement dtd 8/9.4.13 in the house on ‘Citizenship for children of Goans born abroad’ is fine. But his remark on the MLA/s (Ticlo etc) was controversial or misleading? CM said ‘ this will give some relief to MLA (ticlo)’ and others against whom disqualification petition is pending in the High Court (it was also filed with Goa Governor and ECI). Don’t really understand what it has to with the said case. The petitioners claim they have proof or document saying they acquired Portuguese Citzenship some years ago and not decades ago. Which could mean they got themselves (birth) registered either through person or though agents or attorneys. http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoaukextra4/8349473202/sizes/l/in/photostream/ One will only register his birth into another country with the sole intension of acquiring Citizenship or Passport of that Country. I was born in 40’s which mean, I was Protuguese then or until 1962. I became Indian by default or acquired Indian Citizenship by ‘Naturalisation’ But those who become citizens of a country by registering their birth etc there (as in MLAs case as alleged) they are deemed to have acquired their citizenships by ‘Registration’ Source: Indian Nationality Laws (Wekipedia) Section 9(1) of the Indian Citizenship Act says that any citizen of India who by Naturalisation or Registration acquires the citizenship of another country shall cease to be a citizen of India On 16 February 1962, a Constitution Bench of the Supreme Court of India held in the case of Izhar Ahmad Khan Vs. Union of India that "If it is shown that the person has acquired foreign citizenship either by naturalisation or registration, there can be no doubt that he ceases to be a citizen of India in consequence of such naturalisation or registration." Earlier (Jan 2013) too, Parrikar raked similar controversy saying all those (including him) who born before 1961 are Portuguese nationals (listen to it live here) http://youtu.be/MHMGr39dlm0?t=20m48s Yes, Mr. CM but all of them become Indians by default (naturalisation) as of Dec.19, 1961 or 62. Like you, it is assumed Ticlo's also born in 'Portuguese Goa' who also become Indian by 'naturalisation' basis on which he acquired Indian Passport. looks like he has recently acquired Portuguese Citizenship by 'Registration' in Portugal. Citizenship by birth, naturalisation and registration may not mean the same. If Ticlo is out then Caitu be out too (for the same reasons) – Registration in Portugal, one need not travel to Portugal, he can appoint an agent give power of attorney to act on your behalf. There are plenty such agents who would do the job for a fee. Just open Herald, Navhind Times, Times of India on any day and one will find a total of at least 15 ads . Note: This is the way I look at it, Govt or the court may see it differently
----- Original Message ----- From: Frederick FN Noronha * फ्रेड्रिक नोरोन्या * فريدريك نورونيا <fredericknoron...@gmail.com> To: "Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!" <goanet@lists.goanet.org> Cc: Sent: Wednesday, 10 April 2013 1:25 AM Subject: [Goanet-News] NEWS: Citizenship for Goans born abroad (Herald) Citizenship for Goans born abroad April 9, 2013 TEAM HERALD teamher...@herald-goa.com PANJIM: The State Home Department is pursuing the cases of Goans born abroad for grant Indian citizenship with Union Ministry of Home Affairs, and once this is done, they would be able to obtain Indian passports ~ a development that could well provide welcome relief to Benaulim MLA Caitan Silva and Aldona MLA Glenn Ticlo, both of whom are embroiled in court cases over their alleged ‘Portuguese citizenship’. Chief Minister Manohar Parrikar informed the State legislative Assembly on Monday that the Union Ministry vide a February 1, 2013 letter, has confirmed to State government that ‘persons of Goan origin who were born abroad before (Goa’s) Liberation shall be deemed to have become Citizens of India, provided their parents or their grandparents were born before December 20, 1961 in the territories comprising Goa, Daman and Diu and they had not made declaration in writing to retain the citizenship or nationality within 30 days’. “Accordingly, the persons who were born abroad to Goan parents holding Indian citizenship as per Goa, Daman and Diu (citizenship) order, 1962, shall be citizens of India provided their births have been registered in Indian Missions abroad,” Parrikar clarified. Parrikar said that election/voting cards and other documents apart from having completed school and college education in Goa, should be accepted to be proof of having resided in Goa since long. Chief Minister said that the reply will give a relief to MLAs ~ Caitan Silva and Glenn Ticlo, whose citizenship has been challenged in the High Court. Parrikar was replying during the calling attention motion moved by Tivim MLA Kiran Kandolkar who pointed out that the Goans born outside the country are being denied Indian passport on the grounds of having to prove their citizenship. Kandolkar sought to know the steps government intends to take in the matter. Parrikar informed the House that government was aware of the issue and the Commissioner for NRI affairs took up the matter with the Union Home Secretary in July 2012 including difficulties faced by Goans born abroad before and after Liberation in getting Indian citizenship. http://oheraldo.in/News/Main%20Page%20News/Citizenship-for-Goans-born-abroad/72970.html
