In principle I agree with the sentiment, in the sense this is what you'd expect from other languages like Python.
However, slices are fundamentally different to maps in Go. Map values contain a pointer to a mutable data structure (that's why you can't insert into a zero map - you have to allocate the structure first). Slices are structs that contain ptr/len/cap which are never mutated (although the data elements pointed to by ptr may mutate, of course). To alter the len or cap you have to create a new slice value to replace the old one. e.g. a := []int{1,2,3} a = a[0:0] // "clear" So an in-place "clear" of a slice in the way you suggest, which alters the existing len to zero, would have to take a pointer to a slice, not a plain slice value. TBH, I don't see the point of the new clear(slice) function. It clears values up to len, not to cap: https://go.dev/play/p/1N27HXHpEdZ?v=gotip In which case, you might as well just write: var z T // zero value for i := 0; i < len(a); i++ { a[i] = z } I've never felt the need to do this - certainly not enough to warrant a built-in function. (I would allocate a new slice, and let the garbage collector deal with the old one) On Thursday, 6 July 2023 at 08:41:25 UTC+1 Henry wrote: > 'make' allocates the required memory. 'len' returns the length. 'cap' > returns the capacity. The underlying implementation may be different, but > the concept is the same. There is no issue with those. > > It is common for a collection to have methods such as 'Add', 'Delete', and > 'Clear'. The common interpretation of clearing a collection means removing > all items from the collection and setting its length to zero. Clear works > like that with map, but it does differently with slice. I would not say > replacing the values in a slice with the default values as clearing. Maybe > you can call that zeroing, but that's not clearing. Many people would > expect after calling 'Clear(slice)' then the slice length should be zero. > That's why I think the function is incoherent. > > On Thursday, July 6, 2023 at 1:17:39 PM UTC+7 Axel Wagner wrote: > >> Oh and FWIW: You are right (in my opinion) that the different things >> `clear` does are, well, different. But note that clear is not the only >> builtin for which that is the case. `make`, `len` and `cap` all do >> different things (to varying degrees) on maps, slices and channels. >> That's not necessarily a good reason to add more builtins that do >> different things, but there is precedent. >> >> On Thu, Jul 6, 2023 at 8:14 AM Axel Wagner <axel.wa...@googlemail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> On Thu, Jul 6, 2023 at 7:49 AM Henry <henry.ad...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> So, if I get this right, clear on map will result in map length equals >>>> to zero, but clear on slice is only a value-zeroing operation and the >>>> slice >>>> length remains unchanged? >>> >>> >>> That understanding is correct. >>> >>> >>>> They seem like two different operations to me. I don't think that >>>> built-in clear function is necessary. It doesn't seem like the function >>>> has >>>> a good reason to be there. >>>> >>> >>> There is one thing that `clear` allows which is impossible without it >>> and that's removing irreflexive keys (those that contain floating point >>> types/elements/fields which are NaN) from a map. >>> >>> Whether that's a "good" reason is up for debate, of course. There has >>> been quite a bit of that in the issue already: >>> https://github.com/golang/go/issues/56351 >>> >>> >>>> >>>> On Wednesday, July 5, 2023 at 3:54:43 PM UTC+7 Tharaneedharan >>>> Vilwanathan wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Axel, >>>>> >>>>> Okay, that helps! Thanks for the details. >>>>> >>>>> Regards >>>>> dharani >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Jul 5, 2023 at 1:38 AM Axel Wagner <axel.wa...@googlemail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> this has come up on the issue as well. Robert Griesemer provided an >>>>>> explanation >>>>>> <https://github.com/golang/go/issues/56351#issuecomment-1601751291>: >>>>>> >>>>>> If the argument type (the type of the argument provided to clear) is >>>>>>> a type parameter (is of type parameter type), all types in its type set >>>>>>> (in >>>>>>> the type set of the constraint corresponding to the type parameter) >>>>>>> must be >>>>>>> maps or slices, and clear performs the operation corresponding to the >>>>>>> actual type argument (corresponding to the type of the actual type >>>>>>> argument >>>>>>> with which the type parameter was instantiated). >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> That is, the sentence is about this situation: >>>>>> >>>>>> func Clear[T, any, S ~[]T](s S) { >>>>>> clear(s) >>>>>> } >>>>>> func main() { >>>>>> Clear(make([]int, 42)) >>>>>> } >>>>>> >>>>>> In this case, the type of s is S, which is a type parameter. So >>>>>> `clear` performs the operation corresponding to the type argument - in >>>>>> this >>>>>> example []int. >>>>>> >>>>>> The sentence is a bit confusing (I've seen this question come up four >>>>>> times now), so it probably should be clarified a bit. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Jul 5, 2023 at 9:06 AM Tharaneedharan Vilwanathan < >>>>>> vdha...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi All, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Go 1.21 introduces a new clear() builtin function. I see this text >>>>>>> in https://tip.golang.org/ref/spec#Clear: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> clear(t) type parameter see below >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If the argument type is a type parameter >>>>>>> <https://tip.golang.org/ref/spec#Type_parameter_declarations>, all >>>>>>> types in its type set must be maps or slices, and clear performs >>>>>>> the operation corresponding to the actual type argument. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I am not able to make sense of it. What does this mean? 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