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On Thu, 23 Mar 2006 11:12:05 -0300 "Flávio Freitas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: FF> Isso realmente foi verdade? Sempre achei que essa historia de experiencias FF> "geneticas" fosse historia de americano. FF> Ate nos jogos Scape from Castle Wolfenstein e Return to Castle Wolfenstein FF> eles falam disso... FF> FF> FF> On 3/23/06, Cardoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: FF> Stalin tentou, sem sucesso, produzir híbridos, para fazer supersoldados FF> humanos/gorilas... FF> FF> FF> FF> On Thu, 23 Mar 2006 09:07:05 -0300 FF> "Flávio Freitas" <<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: FF> FF> FF> sim, mas nos somos parentes dos chimpanzes e mesmo assim, FF> FF> nao da para cruzar as duas especies. (nao estou considerando FF> FF> o Michael Jackson que eh um caso a parte para estudo) FF> FF> Humanos tem 23 pares, chimpanzes tem 24 pares. FF> FF> Ha uns meses passou um programa impressionante no Animal Planet FF> FF> sobre um chimpanze que andava em duas pernas. Ele era FF> FF> todo esquisito, parecia uma real mistura de chimpanze com humano. FF> FF> Chegaram a apelida-lo de "humanze" e tentaram verificar se ele poderia FF> FF> ser um exemplar da evolucao do ser humano, o elo perdido. FF> FF> A conclusao foi que ele era apenas um chimpanze com alguma mutacao FF> FF> porque possuia 24 pares de cromossomos. FF> FF> FF> FF> [][] FF> FF> Flavio FF> FF> FF> FF> On 3/22/06, ccarloss <<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: FF> FF> FF> FF> Até aí tudo bem, mas cavalos jumentos, zebras, selvagens ou não são todos parentes. FF> FF> Já um gato não tem nada a ver com um rato a não ser na cadeia alimentar. FF> FF> FF> FF> Carlos Antônio. FF> FF> FF> FF> ----- Original Message ----- FF> FF> From: <mailto:<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Flávio Freitas FF> FF> To: [email protected] FF> FF> Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 4:18 PM FF> FF> Subject: Re: Re[2]: [gl-L] Fw: [gl] << Gata pariu rato >> FF> FF> FF> FF> FF> FF> FF> FF> Valeu! Sempre achei que era obrigatorio ter o mesmo numero para FF> FF> ter a remota possibilidade de haver cruzamento. FF> FF> vou dormir mais culto hoje. ;-) FF> FF> FF> FF> FF> FF> On 3/22/06, Gustavo Molina <<mailto:<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: FF> FF> Hello Flávio, FF> FF> FF> FF> Wednesday, March 22, 2006, 3:44:50 PM, you wrote: FF> FF> FF> FF> > nao da. Nao tem o mesmo numero de cromossomos. FF> FF> > Os gatos tem 19 pares e os ratos tem 21 pares. FF> FF> > Para haver cruzamento, no minimo, deveriam ter o mesmo numero. FF> FF> FF> FF> Nem sempre uma diferença no número de cromossomos resulta em impossibilidade de FF> FF> cruzamento. FF> FF> FF> FF> Por exemplo: cavalos domesticados têm 32 pares de cromossomos. Jumentos têm 31. FF> FF> Do cruzamento, nascem burros ou mulas (depende do sexo), com 31,5 pares de FF> FF> cromossomos. Sim. Um par fica incompleto. FF> FF> FF> FF> Zebras selvagens da montanha têm 16 pares. Uma especie de cavalo selvagem (Equus FF> FF> przewalski poliakov) tem 33 pares. No entanto, podem cruzar e gerar crias. FF> FF> FF> FF> Cavalos selvagens (33 pares) podem cruzar com cavalos domesticados (32 pares), FF> FF> gerando uma cria com 32.5 e que é fértil. FF> FF> FF> FF> Se quiser ler mais a respeito, FF> FF> FF> FF> <http://www.madsci.org/posts/archives/may2001/989331026.Ev.r.html>http://www.madsci.org/posts/archives/may2001/989331026.Ev.r.html FF> FF> FF> FF> FF> FF> --- FF> FF> Gustavo Molina mailto:<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED] FF> FF> FF> FF> FF> FF> FF> FF> --- FF> FF> FF> FF> Não leve nada pro lado pessoal. Apenas divirta-se. 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