carlos, devagarinho pra ver se voce entende... quem disse que a direita é quem se justifica foi você. Eu dou como exemplo TODA a criação cultural dos anos 70 e metade dos 80, são sempre histórias de guerreiros valentes contra a burguesia malvada, justificando todos os assaltos, atentados e sequestros da esquerda.
me mostre UM filme da época que siga a linha oposta. On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 22:21:55 -0300 "ccarloss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: c> c> Eu dei os exemplos do Riocentro e do Burnier e você não disse uma palavra. c> Interessa à ditadura tentar justificar isso? E você citou apenas o filme Lamarca e uma série de TV. c> Leia o Elio Gaspari que analisa todo o período mostrando com isenção o que foi o tempo que a ditadura ficou no poder. c> E eu sou tão fraquinho que nenhum dos seus eruditos, fortíssimos e comprovados sem refutação argumentos históricos ou todos juntos foram capazes de me convencer a mudar uma virgula do que penso. c> Pretensão é uma coisa. Razão é outra. c> c> Carlos Antônio. c> c> c> ----- Original Message ----- c> From: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Cardoso c> To: [email protected] c> Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 9:35 PM c> Subject: Re: [gl-L] Argentina , Eu te Amo ! c> c> c> c> é... você vive no seu próprio mundinho idealizado... se deu mal em DUAS c> frases num mesmo texto.. c> c> primeiro no fidel, dizendo que ditadores com apoio popular ficam no c> cargo. Mostrei vários exemplos de ditadores sanguinários que duraram c> décadas.. depois disse que a esquerda não se justifica, só a direita. c> Mostrei vários exemplos da mídia produzida pela esquerda, exaltando os c> feitos e justificanto a luta armada. Você não me mostrou UM exemplo da c> direita justificando o mesmo. Inclusive tentou redefinir o conceito de c> "justificar". c> c> É... fraquinho mesmo. c> c> c> On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 21:26:54 -0300 c> "ccarloss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: c> c> c> Você citou um filme e uma série de TV. c> c> E não foi para justificar. Foi para mostrar o que aconteceu. c> c> A direita não tem como justificar o injustificável e a palavra usada por mim foi esconder. Se mostrarem só confirmarão a culpa. c> c> Além disso quem quer ver o que foi feito mostrado pelo lado opressor? c> c> Mas isso não tem a menor importância. Vou repetir: o assunto está fechado e não vai levar a mudança alguma. c> c> Existem centenas de documentários feitos pelo Amaral Neto, num ufanismo de encomenda mostrando um Brasil que não existia, fazendo apologia dos feitos da ditadura. c> c> E que personagem de direita no Brasil mereceria uma obra c> c> exaltando os seus feitos? c> c> Eu não mudei. c> c> O que você chama de justificativa foi a demonstração dos métodos utilizados pela direta para dizimar com a resistência a ela. c> c> A decisão eu tomei muito antes aqui. Ela não tem o que justificar mas apenas o que esconder. c> c> E não adianta que não vou mudar o meu modo de enxergar o que o regime autoritário fez durante vinte anos no país. c> c> Se quiser continuar a insistir no assunto, o problema não é meu. c> c> Você vai continuar pensando do seu modo e eu do meu. E nada vai mudar isso. c> c> c> c> Carlos Antônio. c> c> c> c> c> c> ----- Original Message ----- c> c> From: <<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Cardoso>mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Cardoso c> c> To: [email protected] c> c> Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 8:50 PM c> c> Subject: Re: [gl-L] Argentina , Eu te Amo ! c> c> c> c> c> c> c> c> Você disse que a direita é quem gosta de se justificar. c> c> c> c> Dei exemplo de vários filmes (aliás todos são assim) onde a esquerda se c> c> justifica, mostra o quanto era boazinha, etc. c> c> c> c> Só queria uma contrapartida, mas agora você mudou de ideia, diz que a c> c> direita se esonde, se oculta. Dá pra se decidir? c> c> c> c> c> c> On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 19:30:45 -0300 c> c> "ccarloss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: c> c> c> c> c> c> c> c> Releia a palavra que eu usei agora: ESCONDER, OCULTAR, não ter coragem de mostrar o que fizeram. E não Justificar.ESCONDER!!! c> c> c> c> c> c> Carlos Antônio. c> c> c> c> c> c> c> c> c> ----- Original Message ----- c> c> c> From: <<<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Cardoso>mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Cardoso>mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Cardoso>mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Cardoso c> c> c> To: [email protected] c> c> c> Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 3:36 PM c> c> c> Subject: Re: [gl-L] Argentina , Eu te Amo ! c> c> c> c> c> c> c> c> c> c> c> c> voce nao disse que eles é que gostavam de se justificar? c> c> c> c> c> c> On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 15:32:10 -0300 c> c> c> "ccarloss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: c> c> c> c> c> c> c> c> c> c> c> Eles sempre tentaram esconder esse lado obscuro da sua história ´pos mostrava as atrocidades que cometeram. Por que fariam propaganda contra eles próprios? c> c> c> c> Preferiam abafar como fizeram com o Riocentro e o Burnier, isto para citar apenas os dois casos de maior conhecimento público. c> c> c> c> c> c> c> c> Carlos Antônio. c> c> c> c> c> c> c> c> c> c> c> c> ----- Original Message ----- c> c> c> c> From: <<<<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Cardoso>mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Cardoso>mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Cardoso>mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Cardoso>mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Cardoso>mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Cardoso>mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Cardoso>mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Cardoso c> c> c> c> To: [email protected] c> c> c> c> Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 2:40 PM c> c> c> c> Subject: Re: [gl-L] Argentina , Eu te Amo ! c> c> c> c> c> c> c> c> c> c> c> c> c> c> c> c> É mesmo? Não lembro de nenhum filme militar no estilo Lamarca, Anos c> c> c> c> Rebeldes, etc.. c> c> c> c> c> c> c> c> c> c> c> c> On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 14:33:41 -0300 c> c> c> c> "ccarloss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: c> c> c> c> c> c> c> c> c> Eu disse que não queria transformar em polêmica aqui e respondendo a uma questão que envolvia um confronto. c> c> c> c> c> E quem sempre quis se justificar foi a medicada do poder. c> c> c> c> c> c> c> c> c> c> Carlos Antônio. c> c> c> c> c> c> c> c> c> c> c> c> c> c> c> ----- Original Message ----- c> c> c> c> c> From: <<<<<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Cardoso>mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Cardoso>mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Cardoso>mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Cardoso>mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Cardoso>mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Cardoso>mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Cardoso>mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Cardoso>mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Cardoso>mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Cardoso>mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Cardoso>mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Cardoso>mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Cardoso>mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Cardoso>mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Cardoso>mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Cardoso c> c> c> c> c> To: [email protected] c> c> c> c> c> Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 2:23 PM c> c> c> c> c> Subject: Re: [gl-L] Argentina , Eu te Amo ! c> c> c> c> c> c> c> c> c> c> c> c> c> c> c> c> c> c> c> c> Se você assume que é uma guerra, não há polêmica, polêmica é quando um c> c> c> c> c> dos lados começa a se justificar. c> c> c> c> c> c> c> c> c> c> c> c> c> c> c> c> c> c> Allgemeinen Anschulterlaubnis c> c> c> c> Cardoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - SkypeIn: (11) 3711-2466 c> c> c> c> vida digital: http://www.contraditorium.com c> c> c> c> site pessoal e blog: http://www.carloscardoso.com c> c> c> c> c> c> c> c> c> c> c> c> c> c> c> c> --- c> c> c> c> c> c> c> c> Não leve nada pro lado pessoal. 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