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Eu acho que demos uma misturada de
estações.
Eu falava da inexistência das câmaras de gás
que podem exagerar nos números mas não negar que tenham existido e não da
contestação do holocausto.
Carlos Antônio.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 12:50 AM
Subject: Re: [gl-L] neonazistas - injustamente perseguidos por
crimes de 60 anos atras?
Não é contestado por nenhum historiador sério. Inclusive sequer
foi
negado em Nuremberg, a defesa da maioria dos figurões era apontar
a
culpa nos mortos ou dizer "eu não sabia". Só nos anos 70, com
o
surgimento dos neonazistas e seus seguidores (a geração que não
teve
qualquer contato com a guerra) o próprio holocausto passou a ser negado.
O Gueto de Varsóvia foi varrido pra debaixo do tapete, bem como TODA
a
legislação antisemita alemã.
Está tudo documentado, dos discursos
de Hitler, onde fala da praga judia
que se alastra pela europa e deve ser
eliminada, à longa série de atos
que ia de impedir de casamento com arianos a
proibir que médicos judeus
atendessem alemães via convênio com a previdência,
literalmente
inviabilizando o ganha-pão dos caras.
Lei para
Restauração do Serviço Público, 6/abril/1933. Só um exemplo.
Pode ver
muito mais neste lindo trabalho da BBC..
http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/games/nazi_genocide_timeline/
Fora
issot ambém tinham idéias ótimas, como estampar passaportes de
judeus alemães
com um "J" para facilitar a identificação.
On Sat, 27 May
2006 00:27:16 -0300
"ccarloss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
c> E contestados também. Requer quase uma vida de estudos,
pesquisas e depoimentos.
c> E a história está repleta versões que só quem
viveu pode atestar. A escolha do crédito cabe a quem lê, pesquisa e
ouve.
c> Mesmo sobre fatos bem mais recentes há e haverá sempre
c>
controvérsia.
c>
c> Carlos Antônio.
c>
c>
c>
----- Original Message -----
c> From: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Cardoso
c> To: [email protected]
c> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 11:21 PM
c> Subject: Re: [gl-L]
neonazistas - injustamente perseguidos por crimes de 60 anos atras?
c>
c>
c>
c> PQP... um dos fatos mais documentados da
História...
c>
c> Qual o email da watchlist do Instituto Simon
Wisenthal?
c>
c>
c> On Fri, 26 May 2006 22:58:05
-0300
c> "ccarloss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
c>
c> c> PQD
c> c>
c> c> E você acredita nele ou
não.
c> c>
c> c> Carlos Antônio.
c> c>
c>
c>
c> c> ----- Original Message -----
c> c> From:
<<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Gustavo>mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Gustavo
Molina
c> c> To: <<mailto:[email protected]>Mascarenhas>mailto:[email protected]>Mascarenhas
c> c> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 5:14 PM
c> c> Subject:
Re[2]: [gl-L] neonazistas - injustamente perseguidos por crimes de 60 anos
atras?
c> c>
c> c>
c> c>
c> c> Hello
Mascarenhas,
c> c>
c> c> Friday, May 26, 2006, 5:22:33 PM,
you wrote:
c> c>
c> c> > Molina, O IHR é um site de
revisionistas!
c> c>
c> c> > http://www.ihr.org/leaflets/gaschambers.shtml
c>
c>
c> c> Sim. E qual o seu ponto ? Eu havia mandado o
link do ihr.org para a lista para
c> c> demonstrar que as câmeras de
gás nunca existiram.
c> c>
c> c> Eu já li essa página
inteira.
c> c>
c> c> Só não entendi porque você
vem afirmar que o IHR é um site de revisionistas. É
c> c> meio óbvio
que o Institute for Historical Review é de revisionistas.
c> c>
c> c> Eles até concluem:
c> c>
c> c> After
30 years of research, revisionist authors have
reached the following
c> c> conclusions:
c> c>
c>
c> 1. The Hitler "gas chambers" never existed.
c>
c> 2. The "genocide" (or "attempted genocide") of the Jews
never took place. In other words: Hitler never gave an order nor permission that
anyone should be killed because of his race or religion.
c>
c> 3. The alleged "gas chambers" and the alleged "genocide"
are one and the same lie.
c> c> 4. This lie, which is
largely of Zionist origin, has made an enormous political and financial fraud
possible, whose principal beneficiary is the state of Israel.
c>
c> 5. The principal victims of this fraud are the German
people (but not the German rulers) and the entire Palestinian people.
c>
c> 6. The enormous power of the official information
services has, thus far, had the effect of ensuring the success of the lie and of
censoring the freedom of _expression_ of those who have denounced the
lie.
c> c> 7. The participants in this lie know that
its days are numbered. They distort the purpose and nature of the Revisionist
research. They label as "resurgence of Nazism" or as "falsification of history"
what is only a thoughtful and justified concern for historical truth.
c>
c>
c> c> Não é gente que se dedicou pouco tempo, em uma
pesquisinha simples. 30 anos de
c> c> pesquisa por várias pessoas é um
tempo considerável.
c> c>
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