On Nov 19, 7:33 am, Jeremy Geerdes <[email protected]> wrote:
> A robot would be an application which retrieves search results or other
> data in an automated manner.

The user enters in a search term.  I call Google to find out how many
pages contain it and use that information.  Then I may want the first
10 results and show that to the user.  Is that considered a robot?

> That would apply to applications which make
> requests at a fixed or random interval. Such applications are prohibited by
> the Web Search TOS. Scraping - which I suspect a court of law would define
> in a similar manner - is prohibited in the Custom Search APIs TOS.
>
> Also, as I said before, neither API will return results which are
> completely consistent with the results you will find on google.com. This is
> not a mere syntax change. The results you receive from either of the Google
> APIs will be different than the results a regular end user would receive
> running a search on Google. So building an application based on the APIs
> will be of only marginal value for SEO purposes, which is what it sounds
> like you're trying to do.
>
> And since the general TOS prohibit scraping of results, you're not allowed
> to pull a regular google.com search and parse out the results there, either.
>
> In short, I'm not sure that you can do what you're proposing in a legal

I'm offering to pay for the access.  Is there no search engine that
sells its results?

> manner. And therefore, I would strongly discourage you from doing so.
> Certainly, I would discourage persons on this group from facilitating your
> efforts.
>
> jg
>
> On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 10:21 PM, Geoffrey Hoffman <
>
>
>
>
>
> [email protected]> wrote:
> > You can also try things like randomizing your sleep time in-between
> > requests and changing the user-agent string you send—basically make your
> > robot seem more like an office full of regular users. Be nice to their
> > servers and you may be able to get search results undetected.
>
> > For the record, the Google Web Search 
> > API<https://developers.google.com/web-search/terms>,
> > which is deprecated (but still worked last time I checked it), states, in
> > part, on the TOS that *you will not*:
>
> >    - *use any robot*, spider, site search/*retrieval application*, or
> >    other device *to retrieve or index any portion of Google Search Results
> >    * or to collect information about users for any unauthorized purpose;
>
> > I have to believe that since they've deprecated the web search API, they
> > want you to scrape their results now even less than they used to.
>
> > On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 7:33 PM, PHPBABY3 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >> On Nov 18, 9:29 pm, Geoffrey Hoffman <[email protected]>
> >> wrote:
> >> > Throttle your requests throug multiple IPs.
>
> >> Is that all it is - frequency of request?  I lately started getting it
> >> when I manually copy a complete set of results (all pages.)  What
> >> would the threshold frequency be?
>
> >> Charlie
>
> >> > On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 7:11 PM, PHPBABY3 <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> > > I have an application in which I need to know the results of a
> >> > > variable Google (or other search engine) results i.e. the first page
> >> > > with the number of results and the first 10, and a link to the next
> >> > > page if there are more.
>
> >> > > When I get it through a PHP function at some point Google only sends
> >> > > a
> >> > > message that it thinks I'm a robot (which I am.)
>
> >> > > Charlie
>
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