Can you guys run a traceroute on your domains vs. the appspot domain?

E.g:

traceroute qa.connectscholar.com
traceroute charityaxis-qa.appspot.com

If you're on Windows, the equivalent command is "tracert".

I'm curious if there's an ISP or specific Google Frontend that is acting up.

On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 2:02 PM, Ikai L (Google) <ika...@google.com> wrote:

> You should still be billed for bandwidth. The advantage of using edge
> caching is that if the resource is being served from the datastore or
> dynamically generated via some other means, you will not incur CPU costs.
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 12:55 PM, Ross M Karchner 
> <rosskarch...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Partially off-topic---  if GFE serves a cached resource, do we get billed
>> for the bandwidth?
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 3:27 PM, Ikai L (Google) <ika...@google.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Okay, looks like the Google Front-End is kicking in to cache your stuff
>>>
>>> Server  Google Frontend
>>> Content-Length  2834
>>> Age     41
>>> Cache-Control   public, max-age=600
>>>
>>> Are you guys setting this header anywhere? Unfortunately, there's no way
>>> to invalidate items in the frontend cache, so you'll have to use a cache
>>> buster or wait for the TTL to expire.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 12:22 PM, J <j.si...@earlystageit.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> That's interesting, Rafael. I wonder why it serves correctly for you.
>>>>
>>>> They are still different from my PoV.
>>>>
>>>> The bad side headers:
>>>> Etag    "74EQOA"
>>>> Date    Tue, 01 Jun 2010 18:12:57 GMT
>>>> Expires Sat, 05 Jun 2010 02:12:57 GMT
>>>> Content-Type    text/css
>>>> Content-Encoding        gzip
>>>> Server  Google Frontend
>>>> Content-Length  2820
>>>> Cache-Control   public, max-age=288000
>>>> Age     90134
>>>> X-XSS-Protection        0
>>>>
>>>> The good side headers:
>>>> Etag    "7xGL5w"
>>>> Date    Wed, 02 Jun 2010 19:13:00 GMT
>>>> Expires Wed, 02 Jun 2010 19:12:04 GMT
>>>> Content-Type    text/css
>>>> Content-Encoding        gzip
>>>> Server  Google Frontend
>>>> Content-Length  2834
>>>> Age     41
>>>> Cache-Control   public, max-age=600
>>>>
>>>> Short of using a cache-buster, is there a setting I can use on GAE or
>>>> in my app.yaml file?
>>>>
>>>> On Jun 2, 3:01 pm, "Ikai L (Google)" <ika...@google.com> wrote:
>>>> > I wonder if there is some layer of the infrastructure that is
>>>> performing
>>>> > caching without you guys having opted-in, hence the reason why a
>>>> > cache-buster like ?v=something works. Can you guys confirm? Also - are
>>>> you
>>>> > guys setting any headers? Which headers get returned?
>>>> >
>>>> > I've personally always used cache busters for the simple reason that
>>>> > sometimes users using web-accelerators or with aggressive ISP or
>>>> caching
>>>> > settings tend to key off the URL. Can you guys use this workaround in
>>>> the
>>>> > meantime?
>>>> >
>>>> > On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 11:57 AM, Rafael Sierra <rafaeljs...@gmail.com
>>>> >wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > > On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 3:37 PM, J <j.si...@earlystageit.com> wrote:
>>>> > > > To reproduce the problem, go to
>>>> > >http://qa.connectscholar.com/stylesheets/caSkin.css
>>>> > > > and also tohttp://
>>>> charityaxis-qa.appspot.com/stylesheets/caSkin.css.
>>>> > > > Both URLs point to the same file but one returns the old content
>>>> and
>>>> > > > appspot.com returns the new content.
>>>> >
>>>> > > Same file here:
>>>> >
>>>> > > Hidan:~ sdm$ curlhttp://
>>>> charityaxis-qa.appspot.com/stylesheets/caSkin.css> 1
>>>> > >  % Total    % Received % Xferd  Average Speed   Time    Time
>>>> Time
>>>> > >  Current
>>>> > >                                 Dload  Upload   Total   Spent
>>>>  Left
>>>> > >  Speed
>>>> > > 100 10941    0 10941    0     0   6146      0 --:--:--  0:00:01
>>>> --:--:--
>>>> > > 31918
>>>> > > Hidan:~ sdm$ curlhttp://
>>>> qa.connectscholar.com/stylesheets/caSkin.css> 2
>>>> > >  % Total    % Received % Xferd  Average Speed   Time    Time
>>>> Time
>>>> > >  Current
>>>> > >                                 Dload  Upload   Total   Spent
>>>>  Left
>>>> > >  Speed
>>>> > > 100 10941    0 10941    0     0   2777      0 --:--:--  0:00:03
>>>> --:--:--
>>>> > >  3854
>>>> > > Hidan:~ sdm$ md5 1
>>>> > > MD5 (1) = 8f5ef511be1a03fd722223337c334933
>>>> > > Hidan:~ sdm$ md5 2
>>>> > > MD5 (2) = 8f5ef511be1a03fd722223337c334933
>>>> >
>>>> > > > On Jun 2, 1:18 pm, "Ikai L (Google)" <ika...@google.com> wrote:
>>>> > > >> Thanks for bringing this up, Tim. Anyone else seeing this
>>>> problem? If
>>>> > > so,
>>>> > > >> please post details. Are you guys setting any kind of cache
>>>> headers?
>>>> >
>>>> > > >> I'm going to try to reproduce these issues, so any information
>>>> will be
>>>> > > >> helpful.
>>>> >
>>>> > > >> On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 9:14 AM, J <j.si...@earlystageit.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > > >> > Thanks, Tim, for letting me know I'm not going insane.
>>>> >
>>>> > > >> > To the Google guys, this problem seems to have started
>>>> yesterday
>>>> > > >> > afternoon (1:30-ish PM, EDT) in case it helps you track down
>>>> the
>>>> > > >> > cause.
>>>> >
>>>> > > >> > On Jun 2, 8:19 am, Tim Hoffman <zutes...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> > > >> > > Hi
>>>> >
>>>> > > >> > > We have been trying to deploy a major revision of one of our
>>>> apps.
>>>> >
>>>> > > >> > > Under the specific version 2-0-0.latest...  all the new
>>>> css/js and
>>>> > > >> > > static images are available.
>>>> >
>>>> > > >> > > When we make the new version default, the css, js and static
>>>> files
>>>> > > are
>>>> > > >> > > accessible via <appid>.appspot.com
>>>> >
>>>> > > >> > > However when accessing the same site via the google apps
>>>> domain
>>>> > > >> > > mapping we are still
>>>> > > >> > > getting the old versions css, js and static images.
>>>> >
>>>> > > >> > > I have tried removing the apps domain mapping and re-adding
>>>> it with
>>>> > > no
>>>> > > >> > > affect.
>>>> >
>>>> > > >> > > We have had to revert to the earlier version as all access to
>>>> the
>>>> > > site
>>>> > > >> > > is via the apps domain and
>>>> > > >> > > its not working with the latest version missing the new
>>>> css/js.
>>>> >
>>>> > > >> > > has anyone got any ideas on how we can address this.
>>>> >
>>>> > > >> > > I know absolutely that the problem is not a browser cache, as
>>>> I have
>>>> > > >> > > been checking the css files via wget.
>>>> >
>>>> > > >> > > Thanks for any help
>>>> >
>>>> > > >> > > regards
>>>> >
>>>> > > >> > > Tim
>>>> >
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