Hi

On Jul 29, 8:40 pm, Jeff Schwartz <jefftschwa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Tim.
>
> Help me out here 'cause I don't understand what problem you see with storing
> a value in a static field?

Wouldn't have a clue.  I don't use java on appengine. You didn't
mention in your original
post you where  specifically talking about java.

In python class/module cached definitions last for as long as the app
instance is running.

T




>
> As far as I know (and I am limiting my discussion here to Java and servlets)
> objects are not persisted across http requests unless they are serializable
> and stored in session or in memcache and that takes programming effort
> meaning you have to deliberately program the behavior.
>
> Yes there are statefull web frameworks such as Wicket and JSF for instance
> that will persist objects accross requests without programming effort but
> even these are limited to model and view class instances for the most part.
>
> As for classes (not instances) persisting across requests (and eliminating
> those classes that are servlet and other server pluming classes) what
> classes are persisted across requests?
>
> If storing values in class static fields were problematic I'd guess that
> this would break quite a number of web apps. What do you think?
>
> Jeff
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 7:31 AM, Tim Hoffman <zutes...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > The biggest problem I see with storing the value at a class/module
> > level
> > is you really need to make sure you clean up after yourself, otherwise
> > the
> > value may still be set when the next request is processed and that
> > value may not be
> > appropriate.
>
> > I would personally always grab/cache values in request object,
> > memcache, and or session
> > as appropriate.
>
> > That way there is no danger of exposing data to other requests.
>
> > But hey, if you want to use module level caches go for it.
>
> > I have been running appengine projects ever since it was released and
> > started out with some
> > module level cache, and regretted it ever since.  It was has proven to
> > be difficult ensure the cache
> > has been cleaned up, where as memcahce you can control out of
> > process.  (You can't shut an instance down
> > if it has an error and you can't remove a value from a module cache)
>
> > Rgds
>
> > T
>
> > On Jul 29, 4:19 pm, Bill Edwards <twmaf...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Hey guys,
>
> > > Is it horrible to use global variables?  I am currently executing a
> > > query at the beginning of my handler and storing the query result
> > > within class object A.  I subsequently need to access the query result
> > > within multiple different class objects, say B, C, and D.  It has been
> > > recommended to me to cache object A in the request object, but i need
> > > to access the variable from within various class objects, so I'm
> > > finding that I have to pass the object A in to the constructor for
> > > every new object i define, and then sync any changed state of object A
> > > with the handler's version of object A when the various class object
> > > functions are completed.
>
> > > So it really seems like the simplest way to do things is to just
> > > define a global variable.  Is there a better option?  Can I think I
> > > would ideally want to create something liek a session object to store
> > > the global object.
>
> > > Thanks!
> > > Bill
>
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