Blocking is nothing new. China of course has been doing it for a long time - but they are by no means the only country.
Surely in this thread you asking if Google would do anything themselves? On 7 December 2010 22:36, nickmilon <nickmi...@gmail.com> wrote: > It seems the question is not hypothetical any more and a new > government request is coming soon: > > "The Tunisian government, known for its restriction on freedom of > expression, rapidly blocked the access to Tunileaks. They first > blocked http://tunileaks.appspot.com/ ( without the https). One day > later, they blocked Google App Engine’s IP address (209.85.229.141) in > order to block Tunileaks under https, making appspot.com partially > unavailable in the country . > ( > http://elitestv.com/pub/2010/12/tunisia-censorship-continues-as-wikileaks-cables-make-the-rounds > ) > > > > On Dec 6, 10:10 pm, "Ikai Lan (Google)" <ikai.l+gro...@google.com> > wrote: >> I don't have anything to add to this discussion except that we're >> always thinking of our users first. We recently published something >> called the "Transparency Report" which shows which governments ask us >> to take things down: >> >> http://www.google.com/transparencyreport/governmentrequests >> >> -- >> Ikai Lan >> Developer Programs Engineer, Google App Engine >> Blogger: http://googleappengine.blogspot.com >> Reddit: http://www.reddit.com/r/appengine >> Twitter: http://twitter.com/app_engine >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 6:30 AM, Jeff Schwartz <jefftschwa...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> > Freedom of speech is always a worthwhile subject and its defense is the >> > ethical and moral obligation of every freedom loving individual but perhaps >> > this is best discussed in a dedicated blog on the subject. >> >> > On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 9:11 AM, nickmilon <nickmi...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> Philip +1 >> >> Still I am not sure that G would surrender so easily as Amazon did, >> >> there is a precedence: G vs Lieberman story: >> >> >>http://googlepublicpolicy.blogspot.com/2008/05/dialogue-with-sen-lieb... >> >> when G stood to its values. >> >> >> By the way ... >> >>http://wikileaks.org/support.html doesn't work for me >> >> >>http://213.251.145.96/support.html is working (for the time been) >> >> >> On Dec 4, 3:15 pm, Philip <philip.mates...@driggle.com> wrote: >> >> > It's sad that Amazon does not support customers that exercise the >> >> > right of free speech. But I'd also assume that Google would not stand >> >> > up against the us government for offending the first amendment. :-( >> >> >> > However, I will still donate to Wikileaks and I would suggest anyone >> >> > else to do the same:http://wikileaks.org/support.html >> >> >> > "Our liberty depends on the freedom of the press, and that cannot be >> >> > limited without being lost." >> >> > Thomas Jefferson >> >> >> > "If the freedom of speech is taken away then dumb and silent we may be >> >> > led, like sheep to the slaughter." >> >> > George Washington >> >> >> > On Dec 4, 1:34 am, supercobra <superco...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> > > Amazon and Google have been long-time partisans of freedom of speech. >> >> >> > > However in this case, the pressure coming from the government must be >> >> > > incredible. Amazon is not the only victim of these intimidations. US >> >> > > government employees have been forbidden to visit Wikileaks sites and >> >> > > to discuss these matters on Facebook. At least one US university has >> >> > > been 'persuaded' to ask their students not to reference any Wikileaks >> >> > > documents in their research papers... (how is that for doing thorough >> >> > > research!). >> >> >> > > Even crounties bend under US pressure. We have seen it to be the case >> >> > > with Spain & Germany which dropped their lawsuits, investigations and >> >> > > enforcement of arrest warrants for torture and kidnappings >> >> > > (renditions) after the US pressured them (source Wikileaks cables). >> >> >> > > So I would assume that Google or any organization would probably >> >> > > comply as well. >> >> >> > > To ensure free speech can not be prevented by taking down web sites, >> >> > > we need to create a totally distributed website hosting technology >> >> > > based on BitTorrent or something similar. >> >> >> > > Happy coding. ;-) >> >> >> > > Daniel Guermeur >> >> >> > > -- superco...@gmail.com >> >> >> > > Co-author of App Engine Java and GWT Development:http://bit.ly/hdTHyB >> >> > > Blog:http://supercobrablogger.blogspot.com/ >> >> >> > > On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 5:18 PM, nickmilon <nickmi...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> > > > There is a lot of talk and flame wars going on "AWS vs GAE" topic, >> >> > > > up >> >> > > > to now all this talk was concentrated on technical and economic >> >> > > > issues. >> >> > > > News of Amazon throwing away the WikiLeaks website has raised new >> >> > > > arguments on the cloud battlefront. >> >> > > > So I want to raise here the hypothetical question what would be the >> >> > > > fate of WikiLeaks if it was hosted on App Engine ? >> >> > > > (For obvious reasons I do not expect a definite yes/no answer from >> >> > > > Google's team, but may be I am wrong) >> >> >> > > > Happy coding:-) >> >> >> > > > Nick >> >> >> > > > -- >> >> > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> >> > > > Groups "Google App Engine" group. >> >> > > > To post to this group, send email to >> >> > > > google-appeng...@googlegroups.com. >> >> > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> >> > > > google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> >> > > > For more options, visit this group >> >> > > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. >> >> >> -- >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> >> "Google App Engine" group. >> >> To post to this group, send email to google-appeng...@googlegroups.com. >> >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> >> google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> >> For more options, visit this group at >> >>http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. >> >> > -- >> > Jeff Schwartz >> >> > -- >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> > "Google App Engine" group. >> > To post to this group, send email to google-appeng...@googlegroups.com. >> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> > google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> > For more options, visit this group at >> >http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Google App Engine" group. > To post to this group, send email to google-appeng...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. 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