@bFlood : Maps Premium is an expensive service used by not public- facing, password protected Web sites, while what we are talking about here is the free Google Maps service, where G is penalizing all Apps running on top of GAE since they have to share the ip addresses pool of GAE ip adresses.
@Ikai : what you write applies to old maps (V2) API where you can obtain an application authorization key and applications are rate limited based on this key, although I feel that some kind of ip based limitations exists also. Maps V3 which is the way to go especially for mobile appls, do not require an application key, instead there are rate limitations based just on originating IP addresses, this puts GAE based appls on a disadvantage since we have to share this with all other GAE based appls using the service. Regards Nick On Apr 8, 2:58 pm, bFlood <bfl...@spatialdatalogic.com> wrote: > Google Maps Premiumhttp://www.google.com/enterprise/earthmaps/maps.html > > Dev guide for Url > signinghttp://code.google.com/apis/maps/documentation/premier/guide.html > > On Apr 8, 3:31 am, "Ikai Lan (Google)" <ika...@google.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > I'll admit that I don't understand the maps API to be an authority on this, > > but the last time I spoke to them, they mentioned some kind of a key you can > > get a hold of? With this key you can make signed requests that can be > > whitelisted. Otherwise, you're put into the general pool of IPs and subject > > to throttling. > > > Ikai Lan > > Developer Programs Engineer, Google App Engine > > Blog:http://googleappengine.blogspot.com > > Twitter:http://twitter.com/app_engine > > Reddit:http://www.reddit.com/r/appengine > > > On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 12:20 AM, nickmilon <nickmi...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > IMHO a proxy will complicate things. > > > What about if GAE team gets in touch with maps V3 team and explain to > > > them the issue so may be they can rate limit all GAE originated appls > > > by app id which is a very secure method since app id can't be > > > hacked ? > > > > @Joe sorry my api isn't that useful in your case. > > > Regards > > > Nick > > > > On Apr 7, 1:06 am, "Brandon Wirtz" <drak...@digerat.com> wrote: > > > > Use a Proxy. Then you can come through your own IP-pool. > > > > > From: google-appengine@googlegroups.com > > > > [mailto:google-appengine@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Joe Tyson > > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 2:59 PM > > > > To: google-appengine@googlegroups.com > > > > Subject: Re: [google-appengine] Re: HItting query limit using Geocoding > > > API > > > > from App Engine > > > > > We are delegating some of that to the client now, but it is far > > > > > less than ideal. Our client is mobile, so every byte that we send > > > > > over can end up costing our users money (you would be surprised > > > > > how sensitive some people are to this). > > > > > Thanks for the resource, though. I wish country level would be > > > > > enough information for us :-(. > > > > > Doing some additional searching around, it looks this issue has > > > > > been bought up by some other users on the maps forum: > > > > >http://goo.gl/RyJ9w > > > > > On Wednesday, April 6, 2011 at 2:44 PM, nickmilon wrote: > > > > > May be you can delegate the geocoding job to the client side using > > > > js ? > > > > also you can take a look here : > > >http://gaengine.blogspot.com/2010/11/world-countries-and-ip-geocoding... > > > > ml > > > > > Nick ;-) > > > > > On Apr 6, 7:25 pm, Joe Tyson <joety...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > Hello, > > > > > This seems to be more of a problem with the geocoding api than app > > > engine, > > > > but I'm unable to get ahold of anyone on that team so I'll post here > > > > instead. > > > > > The new Geocoding API doesn't do any form of url signing or api keys for > > > > non-premier accounts and resorts to using IP address to control quotas. > > > > Since App Engine uses a shared IP pool, my app gets clumped in the quota > > > > limitations of other apps. This must be a somewhat frequent problem for > > > > other apps, since 90% of my geocoding attempts get an 'OVER_QUERY_LIMIT' > > > > message. These last few days, it has been closer to 100% at 500-600 > > > queries > > > > spread out over an 15-20 hours. > > > > > I'll add that I don't think using a pool of IPs is at all the issue. Any > > > > large scale deployment would be hitting the Geocoding API from a pool of > > > > IPs, and if the pool were dedicated to a single service, the service > > > would > > > > be circumventing the Geocoding API quotas anyway. > > > > > Is anyone else on the list having this issue? 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