It's less about the data-center going down, but more about App design and distributing it across regions. All the apps that relied on their PaaS vendors that only provisioned in the us-east-1 region are all hurting right now (including us). If only PaaS offerings enabled regional affinity along with DNS fail-over to alternate regions, that would be awesome. Does GAE do this?
K. --- http://blitz.io (currently down) http://twitter.com/pcapr On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 10:31 AM, Derrick Schneider <derrick.schnei...@gmail.com> wrote: > Not easy, sure, though EC2 has plenty of support for different availability > zones (as does RDS) so it's not impossible (though you pay normal bandwidth > charges between availability zones, as opposed to getting it for free). > So I guess it boils down to figuring out how much outages cost you. In the > case of these businesses, probably not enough to warrant investing the time > and skills to have plans and infrastructures for small-scale disasters like > this, given that they're relatively uncommon. > Derrick > On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 10:14 AM, Jeff Schnitzer <j...@infohazard.org> > wrote: >> >> Easy to say, not so easy to do :-) >> >> All that frantic running-around-in-panic that GAE engineers and ops >> people do when something goes wonky inside the datastore? That would >> be you right now, trying to figure out how to failover your database >> (and any other persistent data) to a different datacenter... and then >> when the original comes back up you get to merge any lost >> transactions. >> >> I've been there and I'm happy to leave this job to the professionals. >> >> Jeff >> >> On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 10:04 AM, Derrick Schneider >> <derrick.schnei...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > While it's certainly unfortunate for companies that have bet on EC2, >> > they'd >> > be smarter to distribute their servers a bit so that a single data >> > center >> > outage does not take out their entire company. >> > >> > On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 10:02 AM, Jeff Schnitzer <j...@infohazard.org> >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> I'm not suggesting schadenfreude here, but for all those folks >> >> doubting the viability of appengine for reliability reasons: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> http://eu.techcrunch.com/2011/04/21/amazon-ec2-goes-down-taking-with-it-reddit-foursquare-and-quora/ >> >> >> >> Amazon's North Virginia datacenter tripped and fell over in the early >> >> AM this morning, and several major sites (Foursquare and Quora) are >> >> still down more than *eight hours* later. Ouch. >> >> >> >> You can read the gory details here: http://status.aws.amazon.com/ >> >> >> >> Jeff >> >> >> >> -- >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> >> Groups >> >> "Google App Engine" group. >> >> To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. >> >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> >> google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> >> For more options, visit this group at >> >> http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Writer. Programmer. Puzzle Designer. >> > http://www.obsessionwithfood.com >> > >> > -- >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> > Groups >> > "Google App Engine" group. >> > To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. >> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> > google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> > For more options, visit this group at >> > http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. >> > >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Google App Engine" group. >> To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. >> > > > > -- > Writer. Programmer. Puzzle Designer. > http://www.obsessionwithfood.com > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Google App Engine" group. > To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.