BTW, when I say no ssl support I'm referring to for the custom domain. What
I mean is if there were support for custom domain ssl then appid could be
really short and the user wouldn't even know what it is. Sorry for any
confusion.

On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 9:33 AM, Stephen Johnson <onepagewo...@gmail.com>wrote:

> Here's my list I go by:
> 1. Only index properties you really need indexed.
> 2. Make sure your composite indexes are really need. With zig-zag merge
> join some composite indexes suggested by development server may not be
> needed.
> 3. Keep property names short. I use 3-4 character names but most are 3
> characters.
> 4. Keep your entity kind names short. I use 2 character entity kind names.
> 5. If using namespaces, keep them short too.
> 6. Keep you appid short but this is hard to do since no ssl support so you
> may want your appspot.com domain to be more descriptive. I've gone with a
> longer name myself.
> 7. Keep down on the number of indexes need use your keys wisely, just don't
> use an auto increment number or something like that which doesn't provide
> you with anything, for example, if I have a User entity kind then their key
> is their user id not an auto increment number where I also need an
> additional property for User Id that I need to index. Then, if User, for
> example, can rent items and I am going to store that in a Rental entity,
> then I make the key be their User Id + the Date/Time of the rental so now I
> can use the key to query for all of a User's rentals and they are ordered by
> the Date/Time of the rental. Also, since single-property indexes also
> contain the key in the index, I can query using the Key and the single
> property index value so it's like I'm querying on multiple properties. In
> addition, you can easily query on the key range, so let's say I want to
> query on the rentals of a user for last month and that single-value
> property. Again, no need for a composite index for this type of query.
>
> Right now, in my development app, I have the following data breakdown
> according to the Datastore Statistics page:
> Total # of entities: 6,475
> Size of all entities: 272 MB
> Metadata: 1 MB
> And according to Quota Details total datastore usage is .27
>
> I've so far only had to have one composite index created but there is a
> caveat to that. Since I am in dev. mode I don't have lots and lots of
> entities and it is possible that the zig-zag merge join may fail me down the
> road and I may need to add some additional composite indexes either because
> I start getting Index Needed exceptions or because I find that with a
> composite index I can get a speed boost over the zig-zag join.
>
> Now, my entities are larger than probably the average user's entities and
> so if you have lots and lots of small entities then you index usage may go
> up.
>
> I hope this helps. I'm sure others have lots of suggestions too.
> Stephen
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 2:31 AM, Richard Druce <contactd...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Hope everyone is having a good day. We've just outgrown the free data
>> storage which Appengine kindly provides which is good but it looks like most
>> of our data is indexes as only 200M of the 1.1 G used is actual data /
>> metadata. Is this a normal ratio and are there any best practices we can use
>> to limit the growth of the index / data ratio?
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Richard
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