Hi Andrius I completely disagree with your: *Lets fill in this form collectively and get things moving rather than being ignored*
We have this mailing list, we have stack overflow, we have office hours with the AppEngine team. I've never had a problem getting an answer from the AppEngine team when I asked the question using the right way (Mailing list / Issue tracker / Office hours). Btw, is your thing a petition or a questionnaire? If it's a "petition", then it doesn't really make sense and you should just make use of the competition (Amazon, Rackspace, whatever...). If this is a questionnaire and you really care about helping the GAE team to improve the service, then your approach of: "Who is really angry with GAE team should answer these negative questions" won't be really helpful. It wont be representative, it will just be a list of rants and mostly unqualified because they are emotional. I'd be more than happy and thankful to fill out an "Help improve AppEngine" questionnaire that asks diverse questions in a neutral way and I'm sure GAE team would be very interested in the results and will listen carefully if you present these real results rather than a mail full of unqualified rants. Cheers, -Andrin, not to be confused with Andrius PS (again): Sending lists of unanswered threads to the list doesn't work. File bugs in the issue tracker. GAE team can't look through all threads and see if they are resolved. That's why they offer us an issue tracker. On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 11:55 PM, Andrius A <andriu...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Brian, > > I am not happy because 2.7 is still experimental but pricing is increased, > and I will be even more unhappy if by 1st December with fronted price > increase python 2.7 will still be experimental. > > and to add to this there are more production issues I was writing but > unfortunately haven't received an answer. Here is the list: > > 1) Broken backends in SDK: > http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine-python/browse_thread/...<http://www.google.com/url?sa=D&q=http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine-python/browse_thread/thread/cf37410a6cf45283/425548774212402f%3Fq%3D%23425548774212402f&usg=AFQjCNHiAuNVzUPyZFKcbjg_7YF83qfjDA> > > > 2) Unexplained random frontend response latency: > http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine/browse_thread/thread/...<http://www.google.com/url?sa=D&q=http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine/browse_thread/thread/ad3c7473b34152ba/d187cb8acc295066%3Fq%3D%23d187cb8acc295066&usg=AFQjCNGAbz_N7V41eK_bJOVpVamfBrY0xg> > > > 3) Memcache expiry time setting bug: > http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine/browse_thread/thread/...<http://www.google.com/url?sa=D&q=http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine/browse_thread/thread/d0dca5913d33f3d1/bfd9117ad45ba516%3Fq%3D%23bfd9117ad45ba516&usg=AFQjCNGTzoND8L5rybwCrVGlcUKL8ml_lw> > > > 4) Channel API not working in backends: > http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=5123<http://www.google.com/url?sa=D&q=http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail%3Fid%3D5123&usg=AFQjCNGf37hfVjHzH50xrXasmAfLdW1v-A> > (Issue > raised in May 27) > 5) Cant delete tasks from Backends: > > http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine-python/browse_thread/thread/f1f674891cb5a2c1/9895847d1525d9e1#9895847d1525d9e1 > > Thanks, > Andrius > > On 24 November 2011 20:33, Brian Quinlan <bquin...@google.com> wrote: > >> Hi Andrius, >> >> On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 11:40 PM, Andrius A <andriu...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > Yes, we all do mistakes and GAE platform is great. But this thread is >> not >> > about this discussion. So if you have any outstanding issues fill in the >> > form! >> > >> > Personally I can't understand how you can be happy with price increase >> and >> > production issues with python 2.7 >> >> As an experimental release, we were expecting significant issues with >> the Python 2.7 runtime (i.e. instability, missing features, >> performance problems) and I've actually been pleasantly surprised at >> how few have been found (thanks to everyone for helping us test!). >> >> Are you unhappy with Python 2.7 production issues because we didn't >> adequately explain that you might experience problems when using it? >> Or is there some other reason? >> >> Cheers, >> Brian >> >> > I totally believe that for hosting just html in app engine is great but >> if >> > you try using more apis such as backends, channels, task queues you will >> > come up to lots of problems. >> > >> > On Nov 24, 2011 12:10 PM, "Simon Knott" <knott.si...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> Hi, >> >> In my experience on the GAE forums, a lot of "unhappy" developers I see >> >> are actually the people who don't understand the GAE architecture and >> have >> >> poorly designed applications for the environment. Their applications >> are >> >> subsequently slow and/or expensive to run, for example because they >> haven't >> >> denormalised their data structure or they've indexed every property >> under >> >> the sun, and they then lay the blame on Google. I personally applaud >> the >> >> development team who provide adhoc support on these forums, as they >> have far >> >> more patience than I have! >> >> I'm not saying that there couldn't be some improvements to the support >> >> channels for genuine issues with the service and I would love to have >> a more >> >> tiered structure, as someone has suggested in the last day, so that >> smaller >> >> companies could get support for less money, within a larger SLA. It >> will be >> >> interesting to see who responds to your questionnaire and the >> complaints >> >> that are aired. >> >> >> >> Cheers, >> >> Simon >> >> >> >> -- >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups >> >> "Google App Engine" group. >> >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> >> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-appengine/-/WRUFpsUp6IcJ. >> >> To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com >> . >> >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> >> google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> >> For more options, visit this group at >> >> http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. >> > >> > -- >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups >> > "Google App Engine" group. >> > To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. >> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> > google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> > For more options, visit this group at >> > http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. >> > >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Google App Engine" group. >> To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. >> >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Google App Engine" group. > To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. 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