Hey Andrew,
  So you need to remember that running a query will result in many reads
(the number of results, plus a scan iirc) -- not just one.  That could well
be the source of your problem.

  As for why memcache isn't being effective, that's harder to say; that
could be a coding issue or a memcache issue.


Robert




On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 07:18, Andrew Osipenko <dev7...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Robert,
>
> Thanks for you being interested to help me.
>
> Let me tell my long sad story:
> I have Java appengine app.
> The app has only one page. This page performs search with various
> parameters, fetches 11 entities and displays search result.
> My app has 3400 page views per day and each day it exceeds it's datastore
> read quota.
>
> Lets count: (11 entities + 1 query) * 3400 = 41800
> 41800 is nearly 50000 (I have not counted other pages)
> This looks ok.
>
> After this I added memcache with refresh interval = 1 hour. But I am still
> getting datastore read quota exceeding.
>
> Appstats reports the following data:
>  user.CreateLoginURL 674    datastore_v3.RunQuery 311    memcache.Get 309   
> memcache.Set
> 150    datastore_v3.Put 34    datastore_v3.Get 20   blobstore.CreateUploadURL
> 14    datastore_v3.Delete 8    mail.Send 3
> Appstats data is not clear to me. According to docs it describes recent
> 1000 requests or so.
> user.CreateLoginURL is called on each page, so appstats describe 674 page
> requests
> datastore_v3.RunQuery=311
> But why memcache.Set = 150? It should be = 311= datastore_v3.RunQuery =
> cache miss count
>
> Perhaps appstats is not the app which can provide exact numbers.
>
> My question is: do you have an idea why my app still get's datastore read
> quota exceeding even after memcache introducing?
>
> -thanks,
> Andrew
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 7:51 AM, Robert Kluin <robert.kl...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Hey Andrew,
>>  What symptoms are you seeing exactly?
>>
>>
>> Robert
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 05:48, Andrew Osipenko <dev7...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Hi Robert,
>> >
>> > no,
>> > session disabling is the first thing I did to reduce datastore access
>> count.
>> > See
>> >
>> http://code.google.com/p/rent-map/source/browse/trunk/trunk/src/main/webapp/WEB-INF/appengine-web.xml
>> >
>> > Second thing I did was memcache introducing. So I used all standard
>> > datastore friendly technics.
>> >
>> >
>> > On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 7:33 AM, Robert Kluin <robert.kl...@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Are you using sessions?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 05:37, Andrew Osipenko <dev7...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >> > Hi Frank,
>> >> >
>> >> > Have you solved it?
>> >> >
>> >> > I have nearly the same problem.
>> >> >
>> >> > I think that appstats do not count some datastore read operations. I
>> >> > thought
>> >> > my application accessed datastore during intialization before appstat
>> >> > filter
>> >> > is being invoked. But I can't find anything bad during my app
>> >> > initialization. Do you have any ideas?
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