Great post, I would like to know the definitive answers as well. For your big question #2, I belive a request has a total of 60 seconds to return a response, and the timer against this 60 seconds starts when the request comes in. So both all the piping & actual request handling has to occur in this time.
On Thursday, November 8, 2012 6:09:49 AM UTC+2, ckhan wrote: > > Several requests over the last two days have failed with: > > 0.1.0.2 - - [06/Nov/2012:10:26:04 -0800] "POST /_ah/queue/deferred > HTTP/1.1" 500 0 "http://myapp.appspot.com/my/url"; "AppEngine-Google; (+ > http://code.google.com/appengine)" > 1:1352226364.645785 Request was aborted after waiting too long to attempt > to service your request. > > I know this problem is reported and discussed often here - but I'm still > unclear on precisely how to interpret it. > > I'm trying to make sure I understand the relationship between idle > instances, > pending latency, dynamic/resident instances, warmup requests and startup > time. > My configuration: > > Idle instances : 4 - Automatic > Pending latency: Autoomatic - Automatic > > My app makes having use of deferred, at the time of the failure several > dozen tasks were posted to the app from taskqueue. > > 1. I'm going to start by assuming that while this request came to my app > from the taskqueue (via the deferred library), this problem has nothing > to do with the taskqueue per se. > > 2. The 500 means that this request in the Pending Queue: > > > https://developers.google.com/appengine/docs/adminconsole/performancesettings > > App Engine's scheduler is responsible for routing incoming > requests to be served by your app's instances. Sometimes the > volume of incoming requests exceeds the capacity of the > instances currently available to your app. When this happens, > incoming requests may have to wait in the Pending Queue until > busy instances become available, or until the scheduler starts > new instances. > > 3. So by that definition, there were only 3 ways out of the queue. > After minimum pending latency, but before max, Scheduler does one of > these: > > 1. One of the 4 resident instances becomes idle, and get the request. > > 2. One of the dynamic instances becomes idle, and gets the request. > > 3. Scheduler spins up a new dynamic instance. > > 3a. If the instance comes up in time, the request is sent there. > > As the 'inaugural request' to this instance, this request > is known as a "loading request". > > Your app handles the request, but its noticeably slower. > You get the warning in the log: > > "This request caused a new process to be started for your > application, and thus caused your application code to be > loaded for the first time. This request may thus take longer > and use more CPU than a typical request for your > application." > > 3b. If the instance does not come up in time, the request is > aborted in the Pending Queue before the app ever sees it. > > You get the error in the log: > > "Request was aborted after waiting too long to attempt to > service your request. > > The big questions I have : > > 1. Is my summary above accurate? Are there any other cases > where "request was aborted after waiting too long" happens? > > 2. How long can you sit in the pending queue before you hit case #3b, > and the request is aborted? Do I have any control over this value? > > 3. I don't have warmup requests configured. Would this have helped? > If so, why? The scheduler has *real* requests waiting in the > pending queue, why/when would it need to send me warmup ones? > > And most importantly: > How can I tell the difference between : > > my instance took too long to come up because my app isn't optimized > properly (ie, my problem) > > AND > > my instance took too long to come up because of something internal to > GAE, entirely outside of my control > (ie, an issue that should be reported GAE prod) > > Thanks so much for any comments/pointers/responses. > -ckhan > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-appengine/-/4QCjoarn57cJ. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
