In fact, you can't set min idle instances to 3 but 4, 8, 9, 10, etc.  Ok 
let's go for 4. 

Over the previous 2h15 test period, about 700 requests were served, 2.4% of 
them were user-facing requests.



On Friday, January 18, 2013 10:45:38 PM UTC+1, Francois Masurel wrote:
>
> Ok, with 2 idle instances I had 20 loading requests over the last 2h15.
>
> Among them only 3 where warmup requests, the other were user facing 
> requests.
>
> Here is the instances chart :
>
>
> <https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-JxgR5_VgpSE/UPnBKVmp3UI/AAAAAAAAz_E/9hq1Hac0JuY/s1600/Dashboard+-+VinoCities+-+Google+Chrome.jpg>
> One of the resident instance was almost never used : only one request 
> served over a 4h38 period (cf. below).
>
>
> <https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-1t-rQGD192k/UPnBgiJO3RI/AAAAAAAAz_M/lBH6DM_kjlk/s1600/Instances+-+VinoCities+-+Google+Chrome.jpg>
> Should I try with 3 min idle instances ?  I'll give it a try.
>
> Does it just mean that GAE Java is simply not compatible with low traffic 
> web sites ?
>
> Could we have an official statement from Google about this ?
>
> Thanx in advance.
>
> François
>
>
>
> On Friday, January 18, 2013 6:07:22 PM UTC+1, Francois Masurel wrote:
>>
>> Here is my dashboard instance graph.
>>
>> First part is with 1 min idle instance, second part with min idle 
>> instance set to  auto.
>>
>>
>> <https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-xVIJBwSd04o/UPmA5FfU4QI/AAAAAAAAz54/Q5VvUGSsAPM/s1600/Dashboard+-+VinoCities+-+Google+Chrome.jpg>
>> I have just set min idle instances to 2 and see how it goes.
>>
>> François
>>
>>
>> On Friday, January 18, 2013 5:11:47 PM UTC+1, Tom Phillips wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Francois, 
>>>
>>> Don't set min idles to automatic, set it to a high enough number that 
>>> over time Total instances (blue) == Billed instances (green). Leave 
>>> max idles and the two latency settings at automatic. 
>>>
>>> If you do have min idles configured, can you post a screencap of your 
>>> instances graph? 
>>>
>>> /Tom 
>>>
>>> On Jan 18, 8:45 am, Francois Masurel <f.masu...@gmail.com> wrote: 
>>> > Things are getting worse : 20 loading requests for the last 23 minutes 
>>> > (about 20% of all requests). 
>>> > 
>>> > Could I have an explanation ? 
>>> > 
>>> > What am I doing wrong ?  I'm really lost :-( 
>>> > 
>>> > App Id : vncts1 
>>> > 
>>> > 
>>> > 
>>> > 
>>> > 
>>> > 
>>> > 
>>> > On Friday, January 18, 2013 2:25:17 PM UTC+1, Francois Masurel wrote: 
>>> > 
>>> > > I have been testing full automatic mode for the last hours (all 
>>> > > application settings set to automatic). 
>>> > 
>>> > > Still getting quite a few user-facing loading requests (~20 per 
>>> hour, 5% 
>>> > > of all requests), there is no more warmup requests in the logs. 
>>> > 
>>> > > One dynamic instance has been alive since the beginning of the test 
>>> and is 
>>> > > getting most of the traffic. 
>>> > 
>>> > > Are these numbers normal ? 
>>> > 
>>> > > François 
>>> > 
>>> > > App Id: vncts1 
>>> > 
>>> > > On Thursday, January 17, 2013 11:21:16 PM UTC+1, Francois Masurel 
>>> wrote: 
>>> > 
>>> > >> Hi Tom, 
>>> > 
>>> > >> Thanx for your suggestion, that's just the settings I'm testing at 
>>> the 
>>> > >> moment. 
>>> > 
>>> > >> Seems to reduce significantly user-facing requests but will quite 
>>> > >> increase my bill (x4) :-( 
>>> > 
>>> > >> May be it will be worth it. 
>>> > 
>>> > >> I'll tell you how it goes. 
>>> > 
>>> > >> François 
>>> > 
>>> > >> On Thursday, January 17, 2013 11:11:56 PM UTC+1, Tom Phillips 
>>> wrote: 
>>> > 
>>> > >>> Make sure on your instances graph that the blue "Total" line is 
>>> not 
>>> > >>> often, ideally only under unforeseen bursts, going higher than the 
>>> > >>> green "Billed" line. 
>>> > 
>>> > >>> Total(blue) > Billed(green): you aren't charged for the delta 
>>> between 
>>> > >>> Total and Billed, but lower QOS for users (assuming your startup 
>>> time 
>>> > >>> is high) since they get most loading requests. 
>>> > >>> Total(blue) == Billed(green): Your /_ah/warmup gets all loading 
>>> > >>> requests, optimal QOS 
>>> > 
>>> > >>> This is just what I've observed (leaving max idles and min/max 
>>> latency 
>>> > >>> at automatic). Unless you have magically low startup latency, 
>>> boost 
>>> > >>> min idles until Total == Billed consistently. 
>>> > 
>>> > >>> /Tom 
>>> > 
>>> > >>> On Jan 17, 11:56 am, Francois Masurel <f.masu...@gmail.com> 
>>> wrote: 
>>> > >>> > For my low traffic website I have found that 50 new instances 
>>> were 
>>> > >>> started 
>>> > >>> > during the last 2 hours and 22 minutes (taken from logs 
>>> searching for 
>>> > >>> "new 
>>> > >>> > process"). 
>>> > 
>>> > >>> > Seems quite a lot for me as I already have a resident instance. 
>>> > 
>>> > >>> > But what annoys me the most is that, among those 50 loading 
>>> requests, 
>>> > >>> 20 
>>> > >>> > were user-facing requests (40%) and 5 were cron requests (10%). 
>>> > 
>>> > >>> > Is it normal behavior ?  Thanx for your help. 
>>> > 
>>> > >>> > François 
>>>
>>

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