If you want to use the API so badly, why not use a non GAE server setup?

On Friday, November 13, 2015 at 3:52:56 PM UTC, Cliff Hill wrote:
>
> I did, it won't work because Google is blocking the url s for Google Play 
> Music from being accessed by Google App Engine.
>
> People wanting "smart playlist" capabilities are not measured "in tens", 
> it is something a lot of people I have seen online ask for. This, to me, is 
> a way it can be accomplished. They already have the api built, just not 
> published or available in various languages (the interface is REST, and is 
> how the unofficial api accesses everything). Google just needs someone to 
> write a thin wrapper over it and make it available, or at the very least, 
> remove the blocking so the existing unofficial api can work.
>
> On Fri, Nov 13, 2015, 10:44 AM Paul Canning <pa...@drawandcode.com 
> <javascript:>> wrote:
>
>> The thing is, it IS asking a lot. It's not like it'll take one guy an 
>> afternoon of work.
>>
>> I highly doubt they'll make any form of API for Google Music, as you can 
>> create playlists etc on the website already. People wanting an API for 
>> their own personal projects are going to be numbered in the tens.
>>
>> If there is an unofficial Python API, have you looked into why it doesn't 
>> work on GAE? I think you'd be able to get that working much sooner then 
>> Google making a GM API (ie never)
>>
>>
>> On Friday, November 13, 2015 at 3:09:16 PM UTC, Cliff Hill wrote:
>>>
>>> Before I start, I want to make it very clear -- I am not talking about 
>>> having a google app engine app that controls streaming music in any way, 
>>> just having the ability to manage/manipulate playlists, as well as the 
>>> metadata for tracks/songs I have in google play music.  I want to propose 
>>> Google make an API available for their music service to accomplish this. 
>>> There already is an unofficial API in Python that allows this, but it is 
>>> unofficial, and it doesn't seem to work in google app engine.
>>>
>>> A little backstory:
>>>
>>> I have a scheme for automatically manipulating a playlist that changes 
>>> each day, cycling through my music library, which now exists on Google Play 
>>> Music. I had started from iTunes, which gave me the ability to construct 
>>> "smart playlists", which essentially allowed me to apply set theory 
>>> concepts to music -- setting up relationships between songs, and using that 
>>> to structure sets of playlists that all automatically update as my music 
>>> was being played -- all for free. I used it to automatically load my phone 
>>> with a bunch of songs each day, which then I could play, and when I 
>>> re-synchronized my iPhone with iTunes, it would remove my played songs, and 
>>> add new songs to my phone automatically.
>>>
>>> However, I'm not an avid Apple user... in fact, I generally prefer 
>>> avoiding it. I am a Linux user (and I had to make a VM instance to install 
>>> Windows just to get iTunes to work correctly back then). So, when my Gen 1 
>>> iPhone's 2-year contract was ended, I switched to another phone... and 
>>> stopped using iTunes. However, I found another way to continue my "smart 
>>> playlist", through the streaming server called Firefly, I just set up my 
>>> own server, installed, firefly, had all my music available on it, and could 
>>> get it to do what I did in iTunes, all without me needing my phone. 
>>> Eventually, I migrated to Squeezebox Server and did a similar trick on that 
>>> (because Firefly was... unstable). This worked (mostly) fine, until my 
>>> server died. As I went to rebuild my playlist, I gave up on squeezebox 
>>> server, because I didn't like managing it through SQL.  I then switched to 
>>> mpd (music player daemon), and figured out how to manage the playlists 
>>> through my own hand in Python, and got it functional again, only after a 
>>> few years having my new server die as well.
>>>
>>> Google offers the Play Music service, which allowed me to upload my 
>>> music library to it, this solves the problem of my personal server failing 
>>> on me. Google also offers Google App Engine for Python.  Essentially, these 
>>> two services would be a perfect fit for me -- I could build my playlist 
>>> generator in Google App Engine, and have it manage my playlist in Google 
>>> Play Music, and simply then use my playlist in Google Play Music, returning 
>>> back to being able to play my music from my (Google Nexus) phone.  Except: 
>>> There is no official Google Play Music API available to use in Google App 
>>> Engine, and using the unofficial Python API doesn't work because Google 
>>> blocks this access. I could write my code to make it work from my own 
>>> server without using Google App Engine, but I would rather a solution that 
>>> is cloud-based. Since it is Google talking to Google, I would think it 
>>> shouldn't be too hard to do.
>>>
>>> I don't have an All Access account, I just want to be able to play my 
>>> own music, streamed through Google Play Music, and have a way to manage my 
>>> playlist, preferably through Google App Engine. The API doesn't need to be 
>>> all that advanced: Just playlist management (CRUD) controls (listing 
>>> playlists, creating/deleting/updating a playlist), and the ability to see 
>>> all my music I have uploaded on Google Play Music. As I said before, the 
>>> unofficial Python API allows for this, but it is unofficial, and unusable 
>>> on GAE.
>>>
>>> I don't think this is asking too much of Google to allow for this kind 
>>> of access between two of their products. As I said at the beginning -- I am 
>>> not looking for a way to stream the music outside of the approved Google 
>>> Play Music system. I am simply wanting to be able to implement a way to 
>>> manipulate my playlists on Google Play Music to dynamically change them 
>>> based on my own sets of rules. I'd prefer this to be doable on Google App 
>>> Engine (where I could have a lot of control over it), but I could also be 
>>> persuaded to do this through a "smart playlist" solution similar to what 
>>> Apple provides in iTunes... but that, to me, seems like more work to get 
>>> set up and maintained by Google.
>>>
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