On Tue, Oct 4, 2016 at 10:51 PM, 'Adam (Cloud Platform Support)' via Google
App Engine <google-appengine@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> It's possible that new instances may not be spinning up quickly enough to
> respond to spikes in load, causing requests to be discarded. I'd recommend
> lowering the <cool-down-period-sec> value to 60 (the minimum) to allow the
> autoscaler checks to occur more frequently, and keep <target-utilization>
> at 0.5 to give new instances more headroom to spin up.
>
Thanks Adam.
I have restarted our servers with target-utilization of 0.4 (have kept the
cool-down-period the same..in the interest of changing one variable at a
time!!)

>
> Try this first to see if the incidences of 502 errors improve. You can try
> to adjust further by increasing the number of <min-num-instances> or
> lowering <target-utilization> further.
>
> Java apps in particular can incur large startup times due to classpath
> scanning and initialization. If you can give some details about the types
> of frameworks and libraries you're using, as well as the request times
> your'e seeing for loading requests (loading_request = 1) I may be able to
> give some further recommendations.
>
This is a backend server with cloud bigtable as its major dependency. I
could not correlate the 502s in my server with the bigtable errors (as
reported by the cluster dashboard).
I will try to see if I can get some loading_request=1 request when the
server is under duress. The absolute first request at the time of server
startup are well behaved, that is to say that my server does not have a
very big upfront cost...it does about 2 seconds worth of initialization
which is done by a <load-on-startup> servlet.

> On Wednesday, September 28, 2016 at 10:36:46 AM UTC-4, Vinay Chitlangia
> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>> I am using appengine flexible environment.
>>
>> I am facing issues when there is a sudden spurt of requests to our
>> system. (About 30 requests in a second). The server gets back to normal in
>> 5-10 seconds (perhaps with the decrease
>> in traffic again)
>> Generally the requests come at about 5-8 per second.
>>
>> I am running with 2 instances.
>>
>> <automatic-scaling>
>>   <min-num-instances>2</min-num-instances>
>>   <max-num-instances>10</max-num-instances>
>>   <cool-down-period-sec>120</cool-down-period-sec>
>>   
>> <cpu-utilization><target-utilization>0.7</target-utilization></cpu-utilization>
>> </automatic-scaling>
>>
>>
>> AFAICT the requests did not hit my servlet. (I added a log, the first
>> line in the servlet, and for failed request it does not get printed).
>> "loading_request" is 0 for the failed requests as well.
>>
>> The error code is 502
>>
>> Is it that the requests are queued while a new instance comes up? Is it
>> possible to override that, that is start the process of bringing up the new
>> servers,
>> but use the old one (if it is taking a while?). The log shows some of the
>> request waiting for 600seconds, most though fail in 10-15ms.
>> The failure happens for between 0.5 to 2% of the requests
>>
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