Hi Anna,

That's quite interesting! On the bright side, congrats on making an app 
that eventually became the focus of the company, good job on that!

I have some experience with G Suite and with Google App Engine development 
using Python. I have mainly used Google Datastore (*which should soon be 
automatically migrated to Firebase in Datastore mode*). Let me try to 
address some of the points you mentioned..

   1. What do I need to know about transferring the app to the admin owner 
   once the project is completed? They have added me to their suite, but I 
   will be removed once I am done with the project
   I would rather have them create a project admin generic account rather 
   than an individual account, and use that to create the project. This way 
   they can use the same account after you are done, they would just need to 
   reset its password. Or if you want to keep the current setup, you can 
transfer 
   project ownership to another account 
   
<https://stackoverflow.com/questions/25697766/how-to-transfer-google-cloud-project-ownership>
 after 
   you are done. Another option is also to add another user as "owner" to the 
   project from *IAM here <https://console.cloud.google.com/iam-admin/iam>,* 
   more about roles here 
   *https://cloud.google.com/iam/docs/understanding-roles* 
   <https://cloud.google.com/iam/docs/understanding-roles>
   2. When I go into my project console under the cloud SQL it says, "You 
   do not have the required permissions to create a Cloud SQL instance. 
   Contact a project administrator to change these settings." I am the project 
   admin so I am assuming this has to do with the little prompt at the 
   top that is telling me to set up billing..
   You are probably right, as you are creating an instance that is billed, 
   you probably need to enable and setup billing first
   3. Should I be inputting my own billing information? Or should I have 
   the organization do it? And if the latter, how do I have them do that?
   No! Please do not do that, you are right about your concerns being 
   billed from your credit card and that later it may not be sufficient for an 
   entire organization consumption of the app. Aside to that you probably 
   don't need the headache of being billed then trying to invoice the 
   organization for the paid bills! You ask them politely to add their credit 
   card information in the project billing section 
   https://console.cloud.google.com/billing/ (*you may need to choose the 
   project*). Again I would setup another owner account for the 
   organization to be able to manage all that stuff.
   4. Has anyone developed a HIPAA compliant app? If so, I would really 
   appreciate any guidance you could offer me. 
   I haven't really, but I see this documentation here 
   *https://cloud.google.com/security/compliance/hipaa/* 
   <https://cloud.google.com/security/compliance/hipaa/> which has 
   "Recommended technical best practices" section that may be worth going 
   through as a checklist
   5. creating a GSuite accessible only app.. I have only ever made public 
   apps so I am not sure how to configure settings so that nobody can find the 
   app unless they are a member of the suite.
   I am not sure how you are currently managing authentication in your app, 
   but I believe G suite authentication for a specific domain is done from *App 
   Engine settings <https://console.cloud.google.com/appengine/settings>,* 
   check *this stack overflow question* 
   
<https://stackoverflow.com/questions/41943712/restrict-app-engine-access-to-g-suite-accounts-on-custom-domain>
 
   too
   6. I tried deploying my first firebase version of the app on Google App 
   engine and it worked fine.. but I wasn't able to figure out how to edit my 
   source code once it was deployed.. I ended up just deleting the projects 
   and creating new ones every time I went to test a different version. I know 
   that's probably the absolute wrong thing to do, but I am really new to 
   Google App engine
   No no no! You don't edit your code on GCP, you edit locally and then 
   deploy. When you deploy to app engine you have full control! you can simply 
   deploy using a *gcloud* command from the terminal Every time you deploy 
   your code, a new version is created on the GCP project and traffic is 
   migrated to this new version. You can even access old versions, or have two 
   or more versions alive at the same time and you can choose to split traffic 
   between those two or more versions! See... *Deploying to App Engine* 
   
<https://cloud.google.com/appengine/docs/standard/python/tools/uploadinganapp>, 
   *Splitting traffic* 
   <https://cloud.google.com/appengine/docs/standard/python/splitting-traffic>
   ,

I hope this helps you a bit, all the best,
Khaled

On Thursday, April 11, 2019 at 10:32:37 PM UTC+2, Anna Nevison wrote:
>
> Hi everyone, 
>
> Thanks to some friendly individuals on the App Maker forum.. I believe I 
> have found the right place to post this now lol.
>
>
> A bit of background, I created an app for an organization that I initially 
> thought would only run locally and I used the firebase api to input 
> information from it into a database. The organization now wants me to move 
> the app to Google Cloud so members of their G Suite can use it and they 
> need the database changed to a SQL one so it can be HIPAA compliant (I did 
> not realize the app would be storing what was considered sensitive patient 
> info when I first coded it and Firebase is not HIPAA compliant)
>
> I am a bit over my head here because I have never created a HIPAA 
> compliant Google App that would be, theoretically, only accessible by 
> members of the organization's GSuite... and I am finding that the 
> documentation on how to do so is super confusing..  So I have a few 
> questions that I would be really grateful if any developer who has been 
> hired in as a temporary contractor for an org to create a Google App could 
> answer... or anyone who has developed a Google App that was HIPAA 
> compliant.. or anyone who has developed an app that was only accessible to 
> members of a GSuite..  
>
> For those who have developed apps for organizations as temporary 
> contractors.. What do I need to know about transferring the app to the 
> admin owner once the project is completed? They have added me to their 
> suite, but I will be removed once I am done with the project.. Is it easy 
> to transfer the admin rights of an app so I can be off boarded from the 
> suite and they can still have the app running? Additionally, regarding 
> setting up billing, I am wondering what is the best way to set up the app's 
> cloud SQL instance in the Google App engine. After reading the docs about 
> this, I had the admin for the organization set up a default Cloud SQL 
> instance. However, when I go into my project console under the cloud SQL it 
> says, "You do not have the required permissions to create a Cloud SQL 
> instance. Contact a project administrator to change these settings." I am 
> the project admin so I am assuming this has to do with the little prompt at 
> the top that is telling me to set up billing... Should I be inputting my 
> own billing information? Or should I have the organization do it? And if 
> the latter, how do I have them do that? I know I receive a $300 credit so I 
> am not worried about being billed.. but they are going to eventually have 
> to pay for the database (and they are willing to do so) because it will be 
> making quite a few calls so that credit may not last long.. 
>
> Okay, this one is the one I am most worried about.. HIPAA compliance... I 
> am not even sure how to start tackling that.. I have done quite a bit of 
> research on it and I still do not have clear understanding of what needs to 
> be there and how exactly I should put it there.. Has anyone developed a 
> HIPAA compliant app? If so, I would really appreciate any guidance you 
> could offer me. 
>
> Next is creating a GSuite accessible only app.. I have only ever made 
> public apps so I am not sure how to configure settings so that nobody can 
> find the app unless they are a member of the suite. 
>
> Lastly, is there a way for me to deploy my app locally with the cloud SQL 
> database after it is set up so I can test to see if it is working? I tried 
> deploying my first firebase version of the app on Google App engine and it 
> worked fine.. but I wasn't able to figure out how to edit my source code 
> once it was deployed.. I ended up just deleting the projects and creating 
> new ones every time I went to test a different version. I know that's 
> probably the absolute wrong thing to do, but I am really new to Google App 
> engine.. I created a local posegres SQL database just so I could start 
> adjusting the syntax that I had for the firebase portion of the code.. but 
> it would be nice if I could test it on the actual database that the app 
> will call to. 
>
> Thank you so much in advance for any help you guys can offer me! 
>
>

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