As a long time App Engine user and still being a believer, I can't help but feel similar to Patrice's original feelings and confusion
One related issue: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/appengine-ndb-discuss/xOuhDFiYKbU - On this migration path, we were being instructed to use a 3rd party Redis service When mail was deprecated, again we were instructed to use 3rd party mail services As most App Engine users, I used App Engine as I wanted an all in one service, where I can just "import" whatever I wanted, and use them, without worrying about a "perfect integration" - I wanted most edge case scenarios, retry scenarios etc. to be handled by App Engine so TL;DR of my points: [1] (Major) Everything should be in-house, which includes Google Cloud [2] (Important but Minor I guess) Even if we use other Google Cloud services, their integration should be native or almost native If I needed to give one example to [2] - I'd say for the storage, the buckets that App Engine references could be auto created, so a new user wouldn't have to deal with all the permissions, setup etc. - that's usually the tricky part of a cloud service, they could just take an example code, run it, and be "Voila!" As [3] - Another recent gripe I have is the perceived lack of grip over App Engine, If I needed to give one concrete example, I recently discovered that end users could see 500 errors, yet you would never observe these 500 errors in App Engine logs, it took a considerable amount of effort to track these, prove they existed, after back and forth, turned out they were 500 errors from the network layer, and they "just didn't propagate" - so after all that effort, there was no solution, they still don't propagate, I feel like it's a major breach of trust on all fronts, but no one cares ... Back in the day, the engineers cared, we used to have Google Hangout's, they listened, they responded, now I also feel like App Engine is just becoming an old instance scaling service With all these said, I still love App Engine, and on day to day usage, no issues lately -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/google-appengine/58655f49-89d4-4253-b618-e6855ce8f308%40googlegroups.com.
