that name because of a name
conflict was unacceptable.

pauvre petit canard on va se mettre a chialer, please stop mariejuana
and use your brain...

On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 1:02 PM, Strahinja<strahinja.marko...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Dear David,
>
> I understand that how much I like my project name and that I would go
> to a different project hosting service have no bearing on your
> decision. They were not written as arguments meant to convince you to
> remove the block: the fact that the other project has been dead for
> six years was.
>
> I merely wanted to state my position. I wanted to explain why I didn't
> just chose a different name. It's not merely a matter of preference;
> this name has been picked a while ago and time and resources were
> already committed to it. Having to change that name because of a name
> conflict was unacceptable.
>
> This leads us to "I'll go somewhere else": it was not meant as any
> sort of threat or tantrum: if you perceived them as such, you have my
> apologies. The point I was trying to illustrate was that this policy
> is--at least in my view--ineffective. I understand the principles
> behind it, and I applaud the intent, but in the end there's little
> point to it. There are many hosting providers out there, and one could
> always just pick one that doesn't check for name conflicts with other
> services.
>
> But you are standing on this as a matter of principle, and I respect
> that. I do agree with you, I just think the cons outweigh the pros.
> But hey, it's your service.
>
> Lastly, I'd like to thank you for removing the block and for such a
> prompt response.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Strahinja
>
> On Jul 24, 12:26 pm, David Anderson <dander...@google.com> wrote:
>> Project created and assigned to you. Don't forget to edit the summary,
>> description, license and labels in the administration panel. Details
>> follow.
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 02:16, Strahinja<strahinja.marko...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > I encountered a problem while trying to create a project on google
>> > code. I picked "sigil" for my project name, and the system informed me
>> > of a name conflict with a project from Sourceforge. That project is
>> > located here:http://sourceforge.net/projects/sigil/
>>
>> > That project is about "providing services for asynchronous play of pen-
>> > and-paper d20 RPGs. It is designed to be a solution for players of
>> > play-by-post or play-by-email gaming." My project is a WYSIWYG ebook
>> > editor. The two have nothing in common, except the name. Also, the
>> > last commit for that project was on Jun 23 2003, a full six years ago.
>> > It seems utterly dead now.
>>
>> The actual thing that makes it okay for us to override the lockout is
>> that the project is stillborn: it was created 2223 days ago, and has
>> had zero activity since. Specifically, no code was ever published
>> according to the CVS log.
>>
>> > My project has been named Sigil for quite some time, the code just
>> > hasn't been released. Currently it's about 15k lines of code, and the
>> > name has grown on me over the past few months. Logos and icons have
>> > been designed, "about" screens have been developed etc. I'd rather not
>> > be forced to change all that. It would be unfortunate if I had to
>> > rename it because of some other project that has been long dead.
>>
>> > That, and Google Code hosting is not the only hosting provider in
>> > universe. It's the one I want to use, but I'll just go somewhere else
>> > if I have to. Please don't be offended by that.
>>
>> I'd just like to point out that the two arguments you presented here
>> don't have much weight in the problem: if you chose to name your
>> project "Gnome", I'd have to refuse the project creation no matter how
>> much you like the name.
>>
>> The same goes for stating you'll go somewhere else if we don't comply:
>> if we feel that it would be wrong to give out a conflicting project
>> name (eg. the "Gnome" example), and you disagree, then you're
>> absolutely free and welcome to use another open source hosting
>> platform. But whether you'll stay or leave has no influence on whether
>> it would be inappropriate or not to duplicate an existing project
>> name, and so is completely irrelevant, to be frank.
>>
>> That said, in this case it was a straightforward decision to create
>> the project, since the other has nothing. So, enjoy your stay on
>> Google Code!
>>
>> - Dave
>
> >
>

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