@Eagle

Have you even bothered to read what I wrote about the same case, just
before you?...

On May 9, 7:38 am, Eagle <[email protected]> wrote:
>   I fail to understand the logic of the proof given in the 'contest
> analysis'.
> For the three unsorted numbers 3 1 2, the sample set of arrangements
> is-
>
>     1  2  3
>     1  3  2
>     2  1  3
>     2  3  1  -   Not even one in correct position
>     3  1  2  -   Not even one in correct position
>     3  2  1
> The probability of at least one number being at its sorted position is
> 2/3, while the probability of not getting even one number in its
> correct position is 1/3. So, how come, all of a sudden, the
> probability of getting at least one number in its correct position is
> becoming 1.0? If at all, average hits are to be calculated (being
> average, it can be non-integer real number), then it would be
> reciprocal of 2/3, that is, 3/2, that is 1.5 and not 1.
> Also, while calculating total probability of dependent events, you
> MULTIPLY the individual probabilities, and NOT add them.
> In the present example, the P(exactly one element in correct position)
> is 3/6 = 1/2. After that event is realized, Goro will hold that
> number, and only two unsorted numbers are there. This time, the
> P(correct sorting) is 1/2. So, the combined probability is 1/2 x 1/2 =
> 1/4. Thus, total 4 hits would be required on average.
> (If my analysis is correct, I will have the life-time joy of catching
> Google employees making logical error! Ha ha ha!!)
>
> Eagle
>
> On May 8, 7:41 pm, rnld <[email protected]> wrote:
>
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> > Yes, that seems correct.
>
> > Let's say M is the number of unsorted elements in the array of length
> > N.
>
> > If you randomly permute the M unsorted elements once, the expected
> > number of elements that fall into its right place equals exactly 1.
> > Hence, on average you'll have to do this M times (after each
> > permutation you freeze everything that's in place, and repeat until
> > number of unsorted elements equals zero), which makes that the
> > expected number of hits is M.
>
> > Consider the following examples.
>
> > A = [2 3 1]
> > --> all 3 not in their right place
> > --> random shuffle gives one of the following permutations:
>
> >      3     2     1     -> 1 element in correct place (the "2")
> >      3     1     2     -> 0 element in correct place
> >      2     3     1     -> 0 element in correct place
> >      2     1     3     -> 1 element in correct place
> >      1     2     3     -> 3 elements in correct place
> >      1     3     2     -> 1 element in correct place
>
> > All are equally likely, so the expected number of elements in it's
> > correct place equals 1/6 * (1+0+0+1+3+1) = 1. I'm not sure how to
> > proof this, but it always gives 1, no matter how many elements you
> > permute. For 2 it's easy to see as well:
>
> > 1 2   -> 2 elements in right place
> > 2 1   -> 0 elements in right place
>
> > 1/2 * (2+0) = 1.
>
> > 1 -> 1 elements in right place
>
> > 1 * 1 = 1.
>
> > Hope his helped.

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