On Sunday, June 14, 2015 at 12:31:15 PM UTC+1, stuckagain wrote: > > I'm excited that you guys are planning a radical change (really). I hope > it becomes more clear on what we should be using to future proof our apps. > I hope we will get some usable preview of Singular (if that is really > going to be a replacement). > > Somehow I am not totally concerned that we will need some major rewrites, > it will be hard sell to management and it might mean that we need to look > to different directions as well. > > But I am afraid that if GWT is no longer offering a complete solution like > it does now (including a UI library, RPC support, i18n, UI binding, ... > etc) that a lot of the advantage will be lost for me. > Other libraries now offer excellent alternatives, that are probably now superior (imho) for RPC, i18n, UI Binding - such as Errai.
The programmatic user UI api can be forked and maintained under a different name, for those that continue to need the programmatic UI api. It hasn't been developed much in years now anyway, so freeing it may allow it to progress better. > > As for naming, well it seems that non of the three letters still apply to > the direction GWT is about to take. > 1) no longer in Google hands (or so they clame) > 2) Web not the main concern since the cross compiler is more to share code > between web/android/ios apps. > 3) Toolkit ... it sounds more like a transpiler to me. Everything that > made it a tooltip will be scrapped. > > > > > On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 8:22 AM, Matic Petek <matic...@gmail.com > <javascript:>> wrote: > >> Hi, >> I'm also frustrated about which technologies to use on new GWT projects >> (see >> https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!topic/google-web-toolkit/_QSayBAmeX8 >> ). >> But when it comes about the name, GWT should stay. The basic idea around >> GWT is writing code in Java which is then recompile (or whatever you call >> it / do it) into JavaScript. And this idea will stick with new GWT 3.0 (it >> was also very clearly emphasis is one of the talks), so the name should >> stay. >> Regards, >> Matic >> >> >> On Saturday, June 13, 2015 at 11:03:08 AM UTC+2, Paul Robinson wrote: >>> >>> The GWT Meetup 2015 videos are very interesting. >>> >>> >>> I can see why the proposals for GWT 3.0 have been made. However, we >>> should be clear about the fact that GWT 3.0 is not just going to break a >>> few little things that can easily be fixed, but break things to the point >>> that it's a completely different product and there will be lots of GWT >>> applications that will never be ported to the new system. >>> >>> >>> It will be confusing to all GWT users to continue to use the name GWT >>> 3.0. It would be much better to use a new name for the new system and treat >>> it as what it is: a new idea about how Java can be used to build modern web >>> applications. >>> >>> >>> The situation we have now is that GWT will end at 2.8 and a new thing, >>> that is currently vapourware, will be coming that people are expected to >>> use. There's going to be a lot of confusion and those using GWT now, as >>> well as those that will use the new thing when it does exist, will all be >>> served much better if everybody stops calling the new thing "GWT". >>> >>> >>> Paul >>> >>> >>> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "GWT Contributors" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to google-web-toolkit-contributors+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >> <javascript:>. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/google-web-toolkit-contributors/43ceb941-d8cc-496f-bab3-ab8219c120bf%40googlegroups.com >> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/google-web-toolkit-contributors/43ceb941-d8cc-496f-bab3-ab8219c120bf%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "GWT Contributors" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to google-web-toolkit-contributors+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/google-web-toolkit-contributors/13a882e0-e40b-490c-a109-36563341c058%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
